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Old 08-26-2012, 02:25 PM
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Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

They make both, at least in .224 90 grains, both are VLD's. I am thinking of loading for LR competition. What is the difference?
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

All their bullets are match grade...the only difference is between match grade hunting and match grade target
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

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They make both, at least in .224 90 grains, both are VLD's. I am thinking of loading for LR competition. What is the difference?
Jacket thickness
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

Berger seems to be diluting their character with too many terms & choices IMO. Eventually it will be easier to just pay for bullets we can understand..

Far as I can tell (today) in 22cal Berger has:
90 gr Match BT Long Range Target
90 gr Match VLD Target
'Match', 'Long Range', and 'Target' are meaningless.

Now a bullet is either of the VLD standard (from bill Davis), or it isn't a VLD.
So the 'BT Target' isn't a VLD.
It likely holds a tangent ogive. If it was hybrid, I'd think it would be named so.

As far as jacket thickness, who knows anymore?
Maybe hunting bullets have thinner jackets than target?
But this would be just opposite of making sense, given that hunters are more likely to blow up bullets with brute force combinations, than target shooters who focus more on accuracy.
Anyway, I would think they'd peel back the merchandising a bit and designate their line with more important information, like 'HJ' if it's heavy jacket.
90gr BT HJ
90gr VLD
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

The Berger 90g Match BT Long Range Target tends to be more length of seating tolerant (as it relates to accuracy) than the VLD and has a BC of .512. They would be a good choice in barrels where throat length is long and prohibits seating on or near the lands.

The 90g Match VLD Target tends to be a bit more "finicky" about length of seating and has a higher BC of .551. This is a great choice in a bullet if you can get it on or near the lands.

Why not try both?
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

"Anyway, I would think they'd peel back the merchandising a bit and designate their line with more important information, like 'HJ' if it's heavy jacket."

Actually, when Berger started making match bullets with thicker jackets they just called them "thick". The stock number had such a designation at the time. Many shooters eventually realized that the regular match bullets (not the thick version) gave excellent terminal performance on the game they were hunting. The "thick" version does not expand in soft skin game animals in a way that Berger would recommend for that purpose.

Hunting bullets (thin version) now come in the orange box and are the original target bullets. Target bullets are the (newer) thick version and come in the original yellow box. Some regular shooters of Berger bullets claim that they virtually shoot the same, however, terminal performance on game is much different.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:52 PM
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Re: Berger match vs. target grade VLD's

I think at one time they listed their non VLD bullets as Length Tolerant Bullets
"LTB" .
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