Re: Berger issues??
I shoot 168 VLDs from my 300WM and I have found two spots that it likes. Mine is a model 700 and it will accept any bullet as long as I want it. Not sure if this is normal but it works. My two spots are .008 off the lands, which works best for me in in everything I shoot VLDs from, 6.5 .257 and .308. The other in the 300 is backed all the way down in the case to the base of the ogive. Found this one on accident. I was out of ammo (forgot mine) and had a friend who I had loaded some with the same load and lot for his A-Bolt. actually the same night. So I fired two shots at the makeshift range at camp. they were touching and on so I rolled with it. Checked a group when I got home and it was a nice half inch group. Wasn't as pretty a group as with them in the lands but more than acceptable for a hunting rifle still. OAL was exactly 3.34 and it was all I could fit in the A-bolt. This is the 168 but with VLDs the best OAL is close with most weights in my guns. Only very slight differences. That is based on experience with the 6.5 and 130 to 140 grain VLDs, only fired 168s out of my 300 because I have an absolute maximum range where I hunt of about 450 yards. Also the trajectory at 3190 FPS is flatter at 500 and very close to a 190 beyond that out to about 800. I would not take a shot at this point beyond 650 on an animal anyway so I really don't currently need the extra energy and therefore cannot justify the extra recoil of heavier bullets. Good luck finding something that works for you. Maybe this could work. remember though with the 190 you are going to have a more significant loss of velocity than I noted with the 168 if you load them that deep in the case. As always, all guns have their own personality and are not always going to like the same stuff.