Berger issues??

ltrbuck · #1 08-03-2010, 09:47 AM

Tried out some 190 VLD's in my Savage 116 300WM yesterday. I found that they would only shoot well when just in the lands, but with that I ended up with an OAL that is too long to fit in my bottom dump mag?? It's a hunting rifle so obviously I don't want a single shot. Any suggestions? Would the 210's fit better being as it's maybe a little wider sooner on bullet tip allowing me to seat a little deeper?

ICANHITHIMMAN · #2 08-03-2010, 10:21 AM

Im shooting the 185g in my 300 win mag and I have to single round load them as well. I dont see it as an issue. Bergers shoot best for me .050 off the lands and my rifle is built on a HOWA action so a wayatts extended mag box is not an option yet.

Just start practicing alot and you will get to the point you are going to be able to re load very fast. If you are hunting with a partner(spoter) it is his job to call your hit any how you should be re loading and waiting for his command to send it again with corrections if you made a bad hit.

You can always do another seating depth test and see if you can get the rounds COAL shorter but you are going to have to give up some case capicty.

ltrbuck · #3 08-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Yea, I tried about 7 or 8 deeper seatings and they didn't shoot well at all unfortunately. I hunt alone a lot so the spotter isn't always an option. Does anyone know if the 210's "widen" (for a better term) sooner than the 190's as I'm really wanting the VLD to work for me. But if not......

JARHEAD1371 · #4 08-03-2010, 10:49 AM

I would trade accuracy for the ability to reload faster any day. I built my 7 SAUM on a single shot Surgeon action and I don't regret it at all. Last year my wife and I killed 3 mule deer, over 400 yds, in about 30 seconds with the same rifle. IMO if you miss with the 1st shot, you will miss with the second, unless you make a sight adjustment and that takes some time anyway. I would seat the bullets where the gun likes them, not the magazine.

sniperjwt · #5 08-03-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARHEAD1371

I would trade accuracy for the ability to reload faster any day. I built my 7 SAUM on a single shot Surgeon action and I don't regret it at all. Last year my wife and I killed 3 mule deer, over 400 yds, in about 30 seconds with the same rifle. IMO if you miss with the 1st shot, you will miss with the second, unless you make a sight adjustment and that takes some time anyway. I would seat the bullets where the gun likes them, not the magazine.

I could not have said it better myself. Although i was going to try until i seen jarheads post. All of my rifles that i shoot the bergers out of i have to single feed. Does that bother me? NO not one bit because i have yet to have to make or try to make a follow up shot. And when the day comes i will be ready because i practice loading another one in all the time at the range. I have one of those holders that goes on your stock so it makes the follow up shot easy just grab one and throw it in. Like jarhead said i would trade one accurate shot for 3-4 fast fliers any day.

ltrbuck · #6 08-03-2010, 11:06 AM

I couldn't agree more with any of you on the one shot counting vs several that don't, I'm simply looking for different options. Additionally being new to the reloading game, I'm always looking for different suggestions from those that have more experience doing so. Appreciate all info!

sniperjwt · #7 08-03-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ltrbuck

I couldn't agree more with any of you on the one shot counting vs several that don't, I'm simply looking for different options. Additionally being new to the reloading game, I'm always looking for different suggestions from those that have more experience doing so. Appreciate all info!

ok then try the matchkings they usually dont mind jumping so they will fit in a mag. Although not reccomended for hunting there are a lot of people that swear by them for hunting bullets.