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Old 03-15-2011, 12:26 PM
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Mark is right about planning ahead and budgeting for quality tools.

But, I don't necessarily think it should preclude you from moving forward.

I do disagree in that I think the Forster Co-ax press is heads and tails above the rest unless you get into arbor presses with hand dies.

We all have our own ideas of precision and long range. For some, it's MOA at 500 yds and for others, it's 1/4 MOA at 1500 yds.

I will say that it's addictive and once you have a little success, you'll want to continually push yourself which will dictate tighter quality controls.

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Old 03-15-2011, 02:47 PM
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Mark is right about planning ahead and budgeting for quality tools.

But, I don't necessarily think it should preclude you from moving forward.

I do disagree in that I think the Forster Co-ax press is heads and tails above the rest unless you get into arbor presses with hand dies.

We all have our own ideas of precision and long range. For some, it's MOA at 500 yds and for others, it's 1/4 MOA at 1500 yds.

I will say that it's addictive and once you have a little success, you'll want to continually push yourself which will dictate tighter quality controls.

-- richard
I should probably clarify on press quality... there are some presses that have some features that making reloading a little easier and convienient, but I think most of the available presses are able to produce a quality precision round worthy of accurate LR shooting. I have used a Rock Chucker for many years and it seems to do fine. But I sure wouldn't mind a Forster Co-Ax or a Redding T-7. IMO the tools that are most important are brass prep tools and bullet seater.

I agree with moving forward, I would just take a hard look at any kit for items that won't be used or will eventually replaced.

-Mark
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:02 PM
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I should probably clarify on press quality... there are some presses that have some features that making reloading a little easier and convienient, but I think most of the available presses are able to produce a quality precision round worthy of accurate LR shooting. I have used a Rock Chucker for many years and it seems to do fine. But I sure wouldn't mind a Forster Co-Ax or a Redding T-7. IMO the tools that are most important are brass prep tools and bullet seater.

I agree with moving forward, I would just take a hard look at any kit for items that won't be used or will eventually replaced.

-Mark
...and, the best brass prep tool is to start with good brass.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:56 PM
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Re: Basic reloading equipment

Is one starter kit better than another? Any suggestions on a kit as far as brand goes?
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:12 PM
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Re: Basic reloading equipment

I bought RCBS back in 1984. Rock Chucker Kit. Came with a lot of basics. As like may things in life, it got set aside and just recently got pulled from storage and put back into use. ( Kids are gone and I have time now)It needed some work and due to rust, some parts needed to be replaced.
I called RCBS for the parts I needed. They sent them...................no cost. That impressed me, a great deal. My Chucker works fine, I get quality loads and I'm happy with it. Like anything else, I need to buy dies for all the different calibers rifle and pistol. I'm still buying dies and other reloading tools, seems to be a never ending process.
For me, the RCBS kit was the beginning. It serves me well. Choice is yours as Hornady, RCBS, Lyman etc all seem to make good stuff.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:11 PM
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When it comes to reloading equipment features, there are some that promote convenience, and some that promote accuracy or both. A turret press is an example of the former. The snap-in/out floating die retention of the Forster Co-Ax is an example of the latter (both). However, it is difficult to evaluate what will work well for you without having some basis of experience, so that you can decide what features you would like or dislike. The Forster Co-Ax also has several other convenience and/or accuracy promoting features not available on other conventional reloading presses. That is not to say that a good quality press cannot be used to reload very accurate ammunition, but it does make it easier to more consistently load accurate ammunition.

For sizing, it is hard to beat the Lee Collet neck die, and impossible to do so for the price of the Lee. Just polish the collet/closer interface and replace the lock ring, and it is a top-notch neck sizing die.

For seating, choose a seating die that aligns the entire case, bullet and seating plug prior to inserting the bullet into the case mouth. Forster originated this design, and offers it as their standard Benchrest seating die. It is also available with a micrometer seating depth adjustment as the Ultra Benchrest seating die. The internal guts are exactly the same on both dies; the micrometer only makes it easier to return to a specific seating depth. Redding copied the Forster design after their patent expired, and offers it as their Competition Rifle seating die, available only with the micrometer. It also has an excellent reputation, but is significantly more expensive than either of the Forster seaters.

Beware of other so-called "competition" seating dies. RCBS offers a windowed seating die that is similar, but only engages the case neck for alignment, rather than the entire case body as those above do. Hornady offers a non-windowed seater that is internally similiar to the RCBS Competition seating die. Redding's Competition Pistol seating die does not have a sliding alignment sleeve at all, just a micrometer depth adjustment. Hornady is the only manufacturer that offers an alignment sleeve in handgun cartridge seating dies.

I also like the L.E. Wilson case trimmer. Sinclair offers a lot of very nice accessories that are also very expensive (more so than the base trimmer!) but not really necessary for convenient, accurate and consistent case trimming. The Wilson holds your case in a tapered holder that mimics the chamber of the rifle in which it is fired. No collets or neck pilots are required, and the same tapered case holder works for an entire family of cartridges that share the same parent case body and taper.

Andy
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: Basic reloading equipment

Nothing like show and tell...

YouTube - Lee Collet Neck Sizing Die Part 1

YouTube - Lee Collet Neck Sizing Die Part 2

YouTube - The Redding Competition Seating Die: Part 1

YouTube - The Redding Competition Seating Die: Part 2

YouTube - Hornady New Dimension Dies

I prefer FL bushing sizing dies to a neck die.
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