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Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

 
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:00 PM
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Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

Anyone prefer a sonic brass cleaner vs the standard tumbler type?

what is the advantages and disadvantages of either system?

if possible tell us which type and brand model you use.

this is the last piece of my reloading needs

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Old 07-10-2012, 05:38 PM
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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

I have all 3 types. Vibratory with dry media, Heated Ultrasonic and now a Stainless tumbling media.

If you want the best, that cleans to a awesome shine, in only 4 hrs, and gets brass looking like new inside and out including primer pockets, then go for the stainless tmbling media.

Search it in the upper right hand corner of this page. There are some good threads about it.

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Old 07-10-2012, 05:39 PM
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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

I use the medium sized Lyman.

The only problems i have is it doesnt make the cases shiny and the inside of the necks get so clean you need to put some motor mica or a graphite of some sort to get consistant neck tension and low es.

First i deprime my cases by hand, then i toss them in the sonic cleaner that has 50% water and 50% vinegar, a drop of dish soap and 1 teaspoon of lemmy shine for about 4, 8 minute cycles (time depends on how many cases are being cleaned), then i rinse them in clean cold water to wash the vinegar off (if this step is skipped you will have pink cases), then i toss them in the tumbler overnight and take out in the morning and they look like new.

I really like it because it gets the primer pockets really clean and i dont have to worry about carbon buildup inside the cases.

There is a product called citranox that you dillute 1:100 in water and it wont make the cases pink if not rinsed off. I plan on buying some and trying it out. it is $45 on amazon for 1 gallon.
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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

Jeff and i were typing at the same time. But i would agree that the stainless tumbling media would be the best and i wish that was what i bought originally.
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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

I went ultrasonic for an experiment, but abandoned it and I'm staying with vibratory.
What I didn't like:
#1 getting brass wet
#2 losing fouling inside necks
#3 it serves no actual purpose

If I needed to enter a brass bling contest, then stainless media looks to be the best. But then I'd have to vibratory polish it anyway to keep it from tarnishing. And I'd have to re-foul inside necks for best seating.
I like clean, but function must come first.
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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

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But then I'd have to vibratory polish it anyway to keep it from tarnishing. And I'd have to re-foul inside necks for best seating.
I like clean, but function must come first.
Mike, what am I missing? I don't vibratory polish mine after the stainless media? I just looked and it all looks fine to me? But I dont store ammo long, I shoot too much.

After 14 firings the insides of my 338 LM cases were really getting a thick build up. But I didn't realize there were advantages to a "fouled neck" ?? please explain. I get great consistant seating using Imperial neck graphite is that why I don't notice a problem with clean brass?

I do live in a dry climate but drying cases is not an issue for me. They will dry in the sun on a simple rack I made from a board and finish nails. But I do wait a day to be sure. Or if I am annealing (which I do almost every firing) they are dried from the heat.

The biggest plus I seen was the spotless primer pockets. It was a painstaking job with a brush and now they all look new after cleaning and I dont have to touch them. I feel a clean primer pocket is important for consistacy.

Honestly, I value your opinion. I feel brass prep is key to accuracy. Tell me what I can do to improve.

Oh, and believe me I am in no "Brass Bling Contest" Just felt I was getting sloppy leaving all that crud build up inside and it was starting to flake as the other cleaners had never touched it.

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Re: Anyone using Sonic Brass Cleaners?

I only have and only use a sonic cleaner. I have the one from Harbor Freight that looks just like the Hornady model. As best I can tell, they're made in the same factory to the same specs with a lower price tag.

I use the Hornady cleaning solution. It goes a long ways. So, I see no need for home brews.

I'm not going to argue which is best. But, I will say I am very pleased and it fully meets my needs.

Clean primer pockets are nice. But, a quick twist from the uniformer resolves that regardless.

Drying is only an issue if you're in a hurry. As I don't get to shoot every day, letting brass sit over night is usually not a problem.

I only use it about every 3-5 firings. ...i.e., as-needed

I have often pondered the effects of fouling in the case necks. I've tried ignoring it, using brushes, steel wool on a drill, and sonic cleaning. Unless it's excessive, I can't tell that it does much to my every day, mid-range accuracy. But, when I'm getting down to a serious set of brass, I sonic clean.

I uses Redding dry neck lube to help alleviate runout when sizing. It may also help with bullet seating and neck tension. But, I can't say for sure.

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