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Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

 
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:11 AM
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Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

Hey guys. Going to start loading for my new AR. I have a set of Lee dies that has the powder dipper. I have never used this before. You guys have any thoughts? Do you just use a level dipper per case?
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

Short answer NO!
If you are going to reload then get a scale and powder throw. Without the proper equipment you will be not able to accurately control your charge. If you are not controlling your charge than you cannot control your preasure, velosity, acurracy, cost and SAFTY.
Enough said
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:33 AM
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

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Short answer NO!
If you are going to reload then get a scale and powder throw. Without the proper equipment you will be not able to accurately control your charge. If you are not controlling your charge than you cannot control your preasure, velosity, acurracy, cost and SAFTY.
Enough said
Got a scale and powder thrower. Not looking for tack-driving accuracy. Just thought it may speed up things.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:01 PM
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

Depends a lot on the cut of the powder. While the dippers are fairly consistant with the finer cuts. They can vary a tad with the long extruded. Since I load mostly for accuracy, I just use the dippers when working up loads. Load the dipper, weigh the charge, load the case. Usually only load up 5 at a time working up loads. So I don't throw with the powder measure. My dippers are usually with in about 2 tenths of a grain with any powder if I fill them up and scrape off the excess. 2 tenths may not seem like much, but it do make a difference if your setting at the top end of pressure and also spreads the group with most of my rifles. So I weigh every thing with the rifles, throw with the powder measure for pistol calibers where close is good enough.
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

I use the dippers to put powder into the pan of my scale then trickle in some to get the weight I want. The dippers alone are not consistent with stick powders but pretty close with ball powders.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:32 PM
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

I haven't used one forever, but it's close enough for bulk ammo. Stay back from maximum loads, use finer powders, and keep your expectations in perspective.
My electronic scale/dispenser is a bit slow, I like the idea of dipping and trickling I'll have to try that one.
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Re: Anybody use the powder dipper with Lee dies?

When I was a kid 45 years ago I purchased a Lee Loader in 30-06 for 5.95. It came with a powder measure calibrated for IMR4064. Using 165gr Speer Spitzers I loaded for about 3 years with this kit. I produced consistent 1" groups in my Winchester Model 70 which was considered great back then, and better than the +2" groups I was getting from any factory ammo I tried. I then spent about $150 for scales, press, dyes, tumblers,etc,etc,etc. After all that, I still got 1" groups. The key to getting consistent charges with the dipper is consistency of technique, and what would today be referee to as being in the "sweet spot" of the ladder so the variations in charge weight didn't give major changes in POI. Of course I didn't know that back then. I also didnt shoot past 200 yards.
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