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7mm rum and 168 berger vld

 
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:52 AM
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7mm rum and 168 berger vld

O.K found out I dont know how to use search.
Does anyone have any data on 7mm rum and 168 vld loads.

Thanks
Ramp
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:54 PM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

WOW!!!!
Slow down folks . Not everybody at once.
I contacted berger so if anyone is interested.

Ramp



Load data was generated using Quick Load a 26 inch barrel a COAL (cartridge over all length) of 3.600 inches and your COAL and velocity could be a little different.
AS WITH ALL RELOADING APPROACH THE MAXIMUM LOADS WITH CAUTION AS ALL RIFLES AND RELOADING TECHNIQUES WILL BE DIFFERENT. If YOU CHANGE ANY OF YOUR COMPONENTS; THIS INCLUDES DIFFERENT POWDER LOT NUMBERS; YOU MUST REFIGURE YOUR LOADS BY STARTING WITH THE MINIMUM LOAD.



If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us.

Thanks for your interest and have a great day.



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7mm Remington Ultra Mag
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
168 Grain RETUMBO 84.5 3029 88.5 3151 93.7%
168 Grain VIHT N170 84.5 2840 89.3 2994 96.1%
168 Grain NORMA MRP 2 80.5 2881 84.8 3014 90.3%
168 Grain H870 90.0 2982 95.0 3160 96.9%
168 Grain VIHT 24N41 93.5 3028 98.0 3193 97.9%
168 Grain 50BMG 94.5 3012 98.8 3195 102.9%
168 Grain AA 8700 96.0 2945 100.5 3107 102.5%
168 Grain IMR 7828 SSC 77.5 2996 81.2 3124 88.3%
168 Grain RE- 25 81.0 3010 85.4 3146 91.4%
168 Grain H1000 81.5 2876 86.0 3017 92.6%
168 Grain US 869 92.5 2894 97.3 3052 100.3%
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:00 PM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

I have a new 7mm RUM that is just itching to be fired. I'll be working up loads with the same bullet, 168 gr. VLD. The only thing holding me up is the arrival of my H-S Preision stock. It was supposed to be shiped on 6/22 but I haven't seen a charge on my credit card yet. I'll let you know the results in a few weeks, hopefully. I'm flying down to Idaho for my anual whitetail/turkey hunt in November so I hope to have the bugs worked out by then.

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Old 06-27-2009, 09:11 PM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

I'm curious how deep you're seating thoes 168 Bergers? Everything that I've read sugests that Bergers like to be seated to or into the lands.

I thought the Berger 210's might be too long for my 300 WSM. But it turned out that when I seated them to barely touch the lands the bearing surface of the bullet only caught about 2/3rds of the neck.

So I'm wondering if you're seating the 168's to the lands, how much neck are you catching? If not seating them to the lands, then disregard.

-MR
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:54 AM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

MR

I've not loaded any yet, just have gotten load data.
I want to make sure they cycle thru. the rifle becouse I will only be using it for hunting.

Ramp
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

What rifle do you have? Usually, if you load to fit the mag, they wont come very close to the lands, depnding on what rifle you have, especially with narrow ogive bullets, like the Bergers. They might work fine loaded to fit the mag, but if you ask the guys in here and the Berger guys, I believe thay will tell you that Bergers usually work best seated to the lands.

In my rifles, Ruger M77 7mmRM, S&W M1500 7mmRM, Sako 85 Finnlight 300 WSM and Rem Sendero 300 RUM, you can not seat them to the lands and fit them in the mag, You can however, hold one down in the mag because the the nose on the top one is above the mag box.

Good shooting,

-MR
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:39 AM
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Re: 7mm rum and 168 berger vld

A friend of mine has been loading the 168's in his Remington 700's. One is a SAUM the other is a RUM. We've been using H-1000 in both of them.

He wanted them both to fit in the magazine. The SAUM makes a 0.075" jump to the lands and the RUM has to make a 0.120" jump. Both shoot sub MOA like that so maybe he is just lucky.

The SAUM is the titanium mountain rifle and the RUM is a Sendero.

Not sure how much this helps but it appears that Bergers don't HAVE to be into the lands.
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