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7mm 180gr Berger VLD

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:00 PM
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

1: Load them on the lands (provided your rifle even likes that) and use it as a single shot.

2: Load them to the max the magazine will allow for reliable feeding and develop your loads using the ladder method.

3: Get a Wyatts box extended magazine.

Into the lands is not always the best solution. With VLD's, it may be the norm but isnt always the case. Sometimes a barrel likes them a bit better if they jump.
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

Rabbitslayer78, there is a sticky on here in the reloading forum Getting the Best Precision and Accuracy from Berger VLD bullets in Your Rifle (it is also on the Berger website) about seating the VLD bullets. They suggest a number of different seating lengths out to 0.13 off the lands, one of which will shoot better than others.

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Old 07-20-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

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I'm shooting a 7mm STW and it's near impossible to have the Berger bullets touch the rifling and still fit in the magazine. Is there any other way to get these to shoot good groups at a shorter C.O.A.L?
Short answer, Yes!

Read the article near the bottom on this page:


Berger Bullets - Tech Info

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Old 07-20-2009, 06:57 PM
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

I'm using 68 grains of retumbo seated at the lands. in my 7rm with the 180's which is max according to quickload. Aslo the 180's shouldn't have any problem stabilizing in your barrel, they do in mine and it's a 9/1/4. I don't have much of a problem getting under 1/2 moa if I do my part.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:36 AM
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

Thanks guys I cant wait to get started loading for this new data. I'll let you know how it goes. Once I have a great load developed it will be time to contact Kenton Industries for a new turret. I appreciate any info on 7 Stw and Berger bullets.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

rabbitslayer,

kiwi3006 gave some great advice. 168 Bergers in my 7mag are not touching the lands. I started at 5/1000 off and then tried 10/1000. I am shooting one hole 5 shot ragged groups at 100 yards with bullets 7/1000 off the lands. I have a friend that shoots 300 win mag w/210 bergers 25/1000 off the lands and is shooting less than 1/2 moa out to 400 yards. don't dispare. check out the info kiwi3006 is talking about. Your 1/9 twist rate is right where you need to be to stabalize those long 180's. Good shooting.

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Re: 7mm 180gr Berger VLD

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rabbitslayer,

kiwi3006 gave some great advice. 168 Bergers in my 7mag are not touching the lands. I started at 5/1000 off and then tried 10/1000. I am shooting one hole 5 shot ragged groups at 100 yards with bullets 7/1000 off the lands. I have a friend that shoots 300 win mag w/210 bergers 25/1000 off the lands and is shooting less than 1/2 moa out to 400 yards. don't dispare. check out the info kiwi3006 is talking about. Your 1/9 twist rate is right where you need to be to stabalize those long 180's. Good shooting.

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CryptoChief, Thanks I will start at the max my magazine will allow(7 STW) and go from there. I'm not too sure about mag box extensions (altering the reciever) so thats why I want a c.o.a.l. that will shoot good groups. Thanks for the info I feel alot better knowing there are shooters out there shooting Bergers VLD that not seated on the lands.
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