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7mm 168 smk. Who's used this on elk sized game?

 
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:44 AM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

Cowboy,

My 280AI shoots the 160 gr AB, 62.0 grs RL22, R-P case, and Federal GM215M primer with excellent accuracy.

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Old 08-21-2006, 07:03 AM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

Chris, my only concern with the smk load was it's low starting velocity. I've done more work with the 168 smk and now have it running 2950fps.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:09 AM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

JD338, I searched some old post and found your load. I loaded up the 160AB with 61gr of REL 22 and WLRM primers.

I shot a 5 shot group with it last evening at 300 yards, they went into 1.70 inches, @ 3025fps.

I was pretty satisfied with that, but may tweak it a little to see if it will tighten up.
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Old 08-21-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

I surely would not use the 162 amax on elk. it may work in a lung shot but my opinion is that if you hit a bone, the bullet may well explode and you´ll end up with an injured animal running or limping away.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:03 PM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

Actually the bear is on my wall, so I would say it killed him. Its not exactly what I would call good performance though for a bear bullet, in my opinoin. I dont want a bullet to retain 20% of its weight when it didn't even hit heavy bone. What if I would have hit that bears shoulder? Would the bullet have broke through it and got to the vitals, probly, but who really knows. Im just saying that for the fact that I usually aim for shoulders, only reason I hit this bear behind the shoulder because he was trotting. Me personally, I want a bullet for elk and bears that will be able to break through both shoulders and still exit. To me, thats great bullet performance on those size critters. I just dont want to shoulder shoot an elk with the wrong bullet and let the chase begin.....
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:33 AM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

I`ve shot 168`s out of a 300win.mag.at over 3000 ft/sec.running 5 x 5 bull elk at 225 yds...down with first shot thru the chest...entry hole .3 exit 3"...he was hyped up..tried to get up...thru the neck...in .3 out 5"...I`ve also shot deer thru the chest...killed good...no more meat damage than factory loads.OMHO
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:29 AM
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Re: 7mm 168 smk. Who\'s used this on elk sized game?

You want a bullet that'll exit both shoulders on an elk or bear...I suggest ya pick a 338/408 or some varient of that combo in 300 grainers or better yet a 50 cal. Asking that of a 7mm or 30 cal in the heaviest of bullet weights is asking for trouble. If you do however manage to make a shoulder shot at 800 the animal will most likely be disabled enough to allow a follow up shot but imo thats still a poor decision to make at 800 yards if a better shot does not present itself.

Any bullet at 800 yards shouldnt be placed in the shoulders if thats the only shot you have to take then you should wait for a more opportune shot even if it means waiting.

At 800 yards if placed in the right area the SMK's and Berger's will do what is needed of them.

This all centers around shot placement and if you have the opportunity to make a good shot.

If you have a gun that is capable of shooting half moa at 800 then you have enough precision to make a heart/lung crtical shot.

I recently did some load development with my 300 wsm and shot at 800 yards it was close to moa. With the 190 grain bergers in southern white tail country the shock value if placed close to the vitals will probably net a kill be it some tracking will be involved it would still work.

However I wont take that shot until I can get it under 8 inches I'd presonally like to see 4 to 5 inches even 6 inches for a more comfortable shot.

This is just my opinions and I aint calling anyone out on it just an observation and personal preference.

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