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6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

 
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

check out this link: web page Its a 243 catbird which is almost the same a the Al with a 35 degree shoulder. It list the middle weight bullets your were asking about.

Just kinda curious why you have just blown off my post [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:14 AM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Lovestohunt,

The short fat powder column may be the reason for your consistancy over what I have seen with the long skinny 06 versions with light bullets.

I have had alot of interest in a 6mm Allen Magnum and I was going to build one on the WSM case with a few changes and use bullets in the 110 to 120 grain range from Wildcat Bullets. I may have to dig deeper into this idea now that I have heard your results.

Interesting!!

Good Shooting!!

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Fiftydriver,

You have a good point.
I do think the wsm case would make a good 6mm Allen Magnum with the heavier bullets also. My barrel is a 29" 3-groove Pac-Nor. I have taken your advise on my overbore cal. and use ball powders. In the 6mm WSM I use Ramshot Mag. with great results.

If I could get some of those heavy Wildcat bullets I would be glad to do some testing for you before you make up your mind on a 6 Allen Magnum. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:16 PM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Use 240 wby info for the standard 6-06. Same case w/ a belt.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Richard should be getting his 6mm dies up and running here soon so I may take you up on that offer. What twist do you have in the pac-nor?

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Old 06-11-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Partagas,

You are close with your information and you are perfectly safe in most cases to use starting loads for the 240 Wby in the 6-06.

However, the 240 Wby is not the same case as an '06 with a belt added to it. In fact, the belt on the 240 Wby case is roughly the same diameter as the diameter of the '06 case. They are listed as 0.472" diameter for the head of the '06 and the belt diameter of the 240 Wby.

The actual body diameter of the 240 Wby is actually 0.453" in diameter however so it is measureable smaller in diameter then the '06 case and as such does not have the internal capacity of the '06. That is why the starting loads for the smaller capacity 240 Wby are perfectly safe in the 6-06.

I have always found Norma made Wby cases to be very soft as well not allowing long case life using high pressure loadings.

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Re: 6mm-06 or AI version info. ?

Fiftydriver,

It has a 10 twist which may not work with the 120s for accuracy but would like to see the velocity potential. I have alot of the slow to ultra slow ball powders on hand that should work good with the heavier bullets. Also have an Ohler 35 that would be able to give good feed back with vel. and SD.

I would guess you could get 3400-3500 fps with the 110-120 grainers. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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