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454 Casull Anybody?

 
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:39 AM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

ive had a number of 454s through the years and one was an alaskan like yours. Mine liked a 300 grain cast rcbs swcgc with 24 grains of 2400. It shot that load way better then anything else i tried. Gas checks at those levels may not be absolutely nessisary. You might get away without leading if thats your consern but ive found especially with top end loads and doubly so for the high pressure loads used in a 454 that gas checked bullets will 9 times out of 10 be more accurate the plain based no matter what alloy is used. Just a side not but i used to shake my head when shooting that alaskan. It was hands down the most comforatble 454 ive ever owned to shoot with top end loads and i cant say why. Another cool thing with the one i had was that i had it cut for moon clips. It would shoot 454s and 45 colts with or without moon clips and with moon clips made for a model 25 smith it would shoot 45acps too.
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Got a Ruger Alaskan in 454 casull that should be here at the end of the week or first of next week. It has the short 2.5" barrel and looking to get some advise on loads for it. Here is what i currently have and have on its way as far as supplies.

120+: pieces of new starline brass primed with small rifle magnum primers
100: pieces of new NAA brass
200: 345gr hard cast lubed bullets, bhn suppose to be 20+
100: 325gr swift A-frames
1lb of lilgun
1lb of h110
3 piece set of rcbs carbide 454 casull dies
Also have some 45lc brass coming

This is all together a new cartridge for me, have read a good bit on it and some say if the the bhn is above 18 no gas checks needed and some dont even lube them, i am pretty new on shooting lead cast out of magnums, any advice on this would help.

Also not sure on the primers, is small rifle magnum good or will small rifle be better or will it be determined by which powder?

I have both powders above on hand but if need to get different one will try to find some.

My goal for this pistol is to shoot hogs or deer around here but main goal other than having a hand cannon is to have a good handgun for future elk hunt to have in bear country. If the A frames shoot well that will be the bullet for bear and cougars from what i have read but have no experience with them.

Any and all help and advice will be thanked
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:09 PM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

Dont use that starline brass unless it is NEW Brass... I have had a big problem with that brass swelling up in the cylinder and it's a MF to eject the cases after there reload..

454 Casull Super Redhawk 9.5 barrel...
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:50 PM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

I have never had the problem with getting stuck cases only after firing 45lc without cleaning the cylinders or not tumbling dirty brass. I also load 325 gas checks to 1550 that have the same point of impact as the swifts. Way cheaper to practice with and sight in.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:49 PM
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Dont use that starline brass unless it is NEW Brass... I have had a big problem with that brass swelling up in the cylinder and it's a MF to eject the cases after there reload..

454 Casull Super Redhawk 9.5 barrel...
I would polish the chambers
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:33 PM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

All my other brass does not stick,,,,,nor does any new ammo it has nothing to do with polishing the chambers.I am sure that would help in the reloaded starling brass!!! but if starline is the only cases sticking why use it
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:47 PM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

There is NOTHING wrong with Starline brass.

If you shoot ANY kind of brass at the top pressure the 454 Casull can operate at (i.e., 60,000 psi) and the chamber of the gun it's originally shot in is larger than the chamber of the gun it's reloaded for, you can get sticking of the cases. Also, with the 454 Casull you need to full length size the case.

Also keep in mind that originally, the 454 Casull was only available in Freedom Arms revolvers. Being a single action revolver, only one case is ejected at a time. Also, in case you've never seen a Freedom Arms revolver in person, the chambers are very precise and highly polished which assists in ejection. If you're shooting a double action revolver, you'll be ejecting 5 cases at once which makes ejection more difficult. Add a dirty or not so polished chamber and the problem is worsened. For brass used in a double action revolver, it might be necessary to lower the load a bit to avoid hard ejection.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:47 AM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

the problem with them isnt starline brass. IF anything starline brass is the best handgun brass made. It holds up much better then ww does. The problem lies with your ruger. The steal they made those 454s and 480s out of has to much flex in it. When you fire the gun with full pressure loads the chamber walls expand along with the brass when the contract they grab hold of the brass a bit to much. There is some help wiht polishing but for the most part dont expect to run loads with the same pressures your going to be able to run your freedom arms 454 at. Stick to the middle of the row book loads for the 454 and youll be fine. Actually the 480s were more trouble yet. When there bigger bore the cylinders are bored out to have less meat in them and they tended to be rough and could use a polishing. Operate a 454 at 47000 psi and it will usually eject fine do the same with a 480 and youll be pounding out cases.
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