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454 Casull Anybody?

 
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:34 AM
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454 Casull Anybody?

Got a Ruger Alaskan in 454 casull that should be here at the end of the week or first of next week. It has the short 2.5" barrel and looking to get some advise on loads for it. Here is what i currently have and have on its way as far as supplies.

120+: pieces of new starline brass primed with small rifle magnum primers
100: pieces of new NAA brass
200: 345gr hard cast lubed bullets, bhn suppose to be 20+
100: 325gr swift A-frames
1lb of lilgun
1lb of h110
3 piece set of rcbs carbide 454 casull dies
Also have some 45lc brass coming

This is all together a new cartridge for me, have read a good bit on it and some say if the the bhn is above 18 no gas checks needed and some dont even lube them, i am pretty new on shooting lead cast out of magnums, any advice on this would help.

Also not sure on the primers, is small rifle magnum good or will small rifle be better or will it be determined by which powder?

I have both powders above on hand but if need to get different one will try to find some.

My goal for this pistol is to shoot hogs or deer around here but main goal other than having a hand cannon is to have a good handgun for future elk hunt to have in bear country. If the A frames shoot well that will be the bullet for bear and cougars from what i have read but have no experience with them.

Any and all help and advice will be thanked
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:42 AM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

I have not handled an Alaskan but have owned Rugers in both the 9.5" and 7.5" barrels
I still own a Super Redhawk with the 7.5" barrel.
It takes me a bunch of practice to handle the 454 loads, I shoot it much better with 45C loads. About August I start with 45C loads and work up to my hunting loads and by Oct I am much better with the recoil
Using a Burris scope I can consistantly hit clay pigeons at 200 yards with the gun from a bench and 300gr cast bullets
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:22 AM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

That's impressive, what kind of load data you using?
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:11 AM
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This is all together a new cartridge for me, have read a good bit on it and some say if the the bhn is above 18 no gas checks needed and some dont even lube them, i am pretty new on shooting lead cast out of magnums, any advice on this would help.
Lead bullets should either be VERY hard for anywhere near ful throttle in a 454 and/or gas checked. I personally won't run lead above 1,200 fps or so in a pistol or 2,000 fps in a rifle as it's just gonna get messy. Not lubing your bullets is a sure way to learn new lead removal methods because a brush and solvent won't be cutting it. You don't need a hard bullet for every situation but for the 454 I can't think of a situation that a soft swaged pill would be enough.
I currently don't own a 454 but have a 44 and my brother has a 460. He's shooting 405 grain lead rifle bullets swaged down to .452. I'm sure he's over 1,200 fps with it, but it's a damn hard bullet and it's his pistol so I don't have to clean the lead out of it. I use either a 200 or 240 loafing at 1,200 fps out of my 44 with herco or true blue. If I go jacketed I swap to aa#9 and a 240 hornady.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:15 AM
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That's impressive, what kind of load data you using?
I am using a 308gre cast bullet with gc over H110 powder
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:13 PM
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Re: 454 Casull Anybody?

My advice would be to use H110 and not Lil' Gun.

Some time ago there was a thread on another forum regarding Lil' Gun in Freedom Arms revolvers. According to the guy in charge at Freedom Arms at that time, Lil' Gun causes very rapid forcing cone damage and deterioration in accuracy in their revolvers.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:10 PM
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In my 7.5" Super Redhawk I load the 325 Swifts to 1550 fps using H110. Using W296 (same powder I believe) I push the cast performance 360GC at 1503fps. This isn't recommended from cast performance as you have to be careful with heavy lead bullets as they may start to pull from recoil. They recommend not going over 1425 fps. I suggest once you shoot two or three bullets start keeping an eye on the remaining and use them as first shooters the next time. Starline is the only brass that I use, it is good stuff. With the 360s I shot a young moose and it went from the chest and exited the right ham, amazing penetration. I have also shot a caribou at 200 yards using the swifts and the terminal performance was great 3/4" hole in and 1" hole out gelling the boiler room. If you are going to scope it make sure the scope is top of the line as the casull is a scope eater. Safe shooting

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