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44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

 
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Old 02-23-2014, 04:07 PM
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

Been there and don't regret going with the 454!!
Nuthing wrong with a 454 Casull= specially if you reload. Just keep the chambers clean and the 45lc is just plain fun!!
Heck my accuracy loads for my 7.5 SRH Casull are running right at high book 44mag speeds.
Have never owned a 44mag but reload for a couple and can tell you a critter aint going to know the difference!!
Just don't try to hotrod the 454casull, it will tear up a SRH and TC Encore
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

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Been there and don't regret going with the 454!!
Nuthing wrong with a 454 Casull= specially if you reload. Just keep the chambers clean and the 45lc is just plain fun!!
Heck my accuracy loads for my 7.5 SRH Casull are running right at high book 44mag speeds.
Have never owned a 44mag but reload for a couple and can tell you a critter aint going to know the difference!!
Just don't try to hotrod the 454casull, it will tear up a SRH and TC Encore
that's good to hear. I'm not in a huge rush...the only reason I was thinking the 454 was my friends is in so great shape and great price. how much is relowding cost of 45 long colt compared to 44 special...i.e. cost of heads and brass
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

Go with the 44Mag. Load it down or load it hot...It will do all that you ask of it.

If ya cant find a good used one...put that $600 toward a new Smith.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:26 PM
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

to me this is really a no brainer.
$600 454 or $950 44mag=454
$600 44mag or $950 454=44mag
Some will say the 44 mag is more available/cheaper and it usually is but 6 months ago 454 and 32 special where the only ammo on the shelves!
If I had it to do over again I would not mess with 44special or 45lc brass, just load the 44mag and 454 down and have at it. The reason being if you fire a lot of the smaller rounds it pits the chambers and full power loads with the big cases get difficult to get out of the chambers.
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

I have had my 454 since I was 16, and yes it is a chore to shoot if you aren't used to the type of recoil this cartridge generates. Although, if you do purchase this gun I would recommend a pachmayr grip to replace the stock one. It is much softer, has finger grooves, takes the sting out of the pistol, and also protects your middle finger from getting beat up by the trigger guard. The 454 super redhawk is way more versatile than the 44 mag. You can shoot 45lc cowboy loads to practice and load them as P+ colt loads with numerous cast lead bullets (I recommend cast performance) to practice getting used to the recoil (buffalo bore offers P+ colt loads with the 300 grain speers). When you are ready to lay the hammer down load some casull brass with 265, 300 or 325 a-frames. My favorite loads for my casull are 325 a-frames and 360 grian cast performance gas checks.

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Old 02-25-2014, 08:05 AM
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

ill agree and a little with some and disagree with ohters. If its your first big bore handgun get yourself a 44 mag. Ammo is easier to find and about half the price and the same goes for brass if you reload. Theres 10 times the varity of loaded 44 mag ammo out there then there is 454. If you dont reload full power 454s arent a good starting point for learning how to shoot a big gun. If you reload the 44 mag in a super redhawk can be taken up to pressure levels that about rival 454 performance. Ill put it this way ive got 41mags, 44mags, 45 colts, 454s 475s and 500 linebaughs and what youll 9 times out of 10 will find me in the woods with is a 44mag of some sort. Unless your intentionaly hunting big bear the 44 mag loaded with a heavy cast bullet at 1200 fps will take care of anything that can be shot with a handgun. I shot a number of buffalo with handguns of all calibers and the quickest kill i ever withnessed on one with any gun, handgun or rilfe was the 1100 lb cow i shot with my 4 5/8s blackhawk 44 mag using a 250 grain cast bullet at 1200 fps. Sure it was probably just one of those things but still drives home the point that if it cant be done with a 44mag most handgunners shouldnt be fooling with it anyway.
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Re: 44spl/44mag vs. 45colt/454 casull?

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ill agree and a little with some and disagree with ohters. If its your first big bore handgun get yourself a 44 mag. Ammo is easier to find and about half the price and the same goes for brass if you reload. Theres 10 times the varity of loaded 44 mag ammo out there then there is 454. If you dont reload full power 454s arent a good starting point for learning how to shoot a big gun. If you reload the 44 mag in a super redhawk can be taken up to pressure levels that about rival 454 performance. Ill put it this way ive got 41mags, 44mags, 45 colts, 454s 475s and 500 linebaughs and what youll 9 times out of 10 will find me in the woods with is a 44mag of some sort. Unless your intentionaly hunting big bear the 44 mag loaded with a heavy cast bullet at 1200 fps will take care of anything that can be shot with a handgun. I shot a number of buffalo with handguns of all calibers and the quickest kill i ever withnessed on one with any gun, handgun or rilfe was the 1100 lb cow i shot with my 4 5/8s blackhawk 44 mag using a 250 grain cast bullet at 1200 fps. Sure it was probably just one of those things but still drives home the point that if it cant be done with a 44mag most handgunners shouldnt be fooling with it anyway.
I have chosen the 44 for sure now...but now I'm stuck on whethrr to get a super redhawk or a 629. I know that the super redhawk is the way to go for hubting but as I stated I will be shooting this for funmuch morw than ill be using it for hunting. I will definitely only be using iron sights. just worrued if the 629 will have failures...who knows what ill shoot but most likely it will be light loads for range days and then 180-240 grainers with a decent load...nothing crazy hot as I will be only hunting deer...unless a black bear strolls on by. will the 629 hold up to this? this may soubd silly but the 629 is so much better looking in my opinion and woukd rather have that
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