Im going try these bullets out this spring on some black bears. I started playing with these today, i didn't shoot my best (haven't shot in couple months) but i believe there is some real potential here.. I just found max load back down some, loaded up some rounds and this what i came up with so far.. Compressed load because the bullet is so long, longer than the berger 300. I have to seat 100 thou off, to fit in my mag.. Going try some retumbo and re33 at a later date. Just though i would add some data to this thread.. Anyone else have any data?? Posted this on another site, havent shot any other powders yet,but my son did take a black bear @348 through both shoulders, very impressed so far 338 EDGE..