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Old 11-07-2012, 02:33 PM
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.308 win 185gr berger

Anyone else shooting the 185gr bergers out of a 308 win.

Any one shooting them out to or past 1000yds?

If so i would like the hear your opinions and even some load data.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:38 PM
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

I'm not sure which 185s you are reffering to, if you have a 12 twist 308 it may not stabilize the 185 hybrid otm as it is longer than the 190 hunting vld, if you're using the 185 hunting vlds you will be fine, or if you have a 10 twist you will be fine with either 185. I have tested a few of the hybrids in a 24" 10 twist, with 2 different powders but only at 300yrds. I have used 2 different seating depths as well, .010" jam and .010" jump, I started at 41grns of Imr4064 in winchester brass, topped out at 44 and some change, 43.7grns with the jam was the best for accuracy but velocity suffered at 2570fps, the fastest load which was still under half moa was 47.3grns of RE17 with a jam, I used Fed210M primers for all testing. The RE17 ran at 2730fps but had a spread over 30fps. In a nutshell I didn't do any further testing because it didn't have the workings of a long range load IMO. If your punching paper the 168 hybrid otm in win brass over 47grns of varget with a CCI BR2 primer is a better choice with a .010-.030" jump, gets close to 2850fps in my rifle, and will do good to 600yrds as far as I've tested it, maybe even decent at 1k, they have a .519 G1 BC. These loads are not tame, start atleast 3grns LOWER!
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

Im shooting the 185 hunting vld, and using a remington factory barrel with 1-12 twist.

Im also a big fan of this load with 43.8 gr of imr 4064 inside winchester brass and a cci 200 lr primer. Except i jump it .06

How many reloads can you get outta your brass?
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

Typically for me, winchester brass 10-12, rem, fed, or lake city about 8 or 9, norma about 15, and upwards of 20 with lapua, but I anneal and neck size only until its a must to push the shoulder back.
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

Thats where im struggling. im getting about 6-8 but i full length size so i guss that could do it. I wonder if backing down a bit like 43.5 or 43.2 may help but im worried ill suffer trying to shoot 1000yds.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:17 PM
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

It depends on what brass you're using and which part isn't holding up, is it losing neck tension or loosening primer pockets?
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Re: .308 win 185gr berger

Primer pockets got loose first. Then it felt as if neck tension was varying so i began annealing more often until last weekend when i started splitting cases about a quarter inch from the head. Right where the full length sizing die stops.

Do you think the 185 bergers are great rounds for 800 plus or is there something else you would favor. I decided to run the heavier lead because i face alot of crosswind and the heavier bullets also retain a bit more energy, for hunting.
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