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I checked the length of the case. The DPMS has a very short chamber. So I have to load short to keep from contacting the lands. I know the neck wall thickness is thicker than my win brass. When I measure the ID of the neck it measures the same. It seems like the thicker wall is harder even though the neck tension measures the same. The hodgin website states the max charge for a 168G to be 46G, I know the capacity of the thicker case is less, thats why i droped back to 44. I am not crimping the neck at all
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