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Old 06-17-2013, 06:19 PM
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Re: .300wm confusion

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Was the barrel warm, or cold when you first found your node? Since it sounds as though it was warm when you shot the second group.

It was cold when I found the node the day before, but didn't change when barrel heated up.

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Old 06-18-2013, 05:39 AM
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Re: .300wm confusion

Are the three groups the only groups being referenced? If so, before looking to the rifle or load, I would shoot a half dozen three shot groups letting the barrel cool between groups in rule out shooter error. Ii's not impossible to throw a group with the big magnums. IMO.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:28 AM
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Re: .300wm confusion

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Are the three groups the only groups being referenced? If so, before looking to the rifle or load, I would shoot a half dozen three shot groups letting the barrel cool between groups in rule out shooter error. Ii's not impossible to throw a group with the big magnums. IMO.
+1. Shooter error accounts for 75% of issues ime
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:12 PM
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Re: .300wm confusion

I would concur with the posts above. Magnums with standard barrels give me a hard time getting any consistency.

I have an old Ruger M77 w/tang safety in 300 Win Mag.

It takes about 12-15 rounds to settle down(foul). Once it does, I can shoot about an inch somedays with some loads and then bigger with others. It is a standard barrel no brake, so it is pretty light for a 300 WM. I really have to concentrate to ensure the "squeeze".

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Old 06-18-2013, 01:13 PM
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Re: .300wm confusion

repeat it. i would shoot 4 shot groups
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:29 AM
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Re: .300wm confusion

Group shooting; one of the most misunderstood things about testing for accuracy.

If you shoot several groups with the same load all the same way and they ain't within 10% of each other in extreme spread, you're not shooting enough shots per group for them to be meaningful and represent the accuracy level that load produces all the time.

If you measured a fish with a ruler and the numbers ranged from 6 to 12 inches, which one represents how long the fish is? Does the fish have an average length?

A given rifle and load will shoot all their groups the same size (within 5%) if enough shots per group are fired. How realistic do you want your assesment of the load's accuracy to be?

However, if you're only interested in how accurate the load is a small percentage of the time, then shoot a few 3-shot groups with different loads and pick the smallest ones recipie. Good luck equaling that smallest group at some later time.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:31 AM
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Re: .300wm confusion

my guess is an answer your probably not going to want to here but it happens to me all the time. My first group sucks so i then tend to pay a bit more attention to my trigger work and consentrate a bit more and low and behold the group tightens. Theres some days i go to the range and everything clicks and others that i should have just stayed home.
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