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Unread 07-24-2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

Been working on a 06 loads with a 180gr sgk and ended up with
a nice 5/8 group with H4350 with the best group at 56 3/4gr load
using win brass prep primer pocket, and flashole cut. Full length sizing
to the chamber size then measured the overall set seating die to that.
Then put in WLR primers seemed to be the ticket, because the 210M's
opened up around one inch in testing.
The last step was setting the bullet to the chamber length once seated
turned the case 90 degrees and seated again..
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Unread 08-26-2009, 10:27 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

Worked on a load of 180gr and RL-15 gave it a try
the results were surprising went over max and very
nice groups.
Now I am not telling you to go over Max in a reloading manual
Just that the results can be dangerous to you and your equipment.......
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Unread 08-27-2009, 10:25 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

I have a Steyr SBS .30-06 that I got for my wife. it hates H4831 and RL 22 for 180 grains using standard rifle primer. a lot of flash and boom. my guess a lot of the slow burning powder is burning outside the muzzle- 20" barrel. getting about 2450-2600 Fps from it and erratic velocities from my chrno. that can also explain your grous of 2.5" i was getting 2.1" groups. on the other hand i tried the federal vital shock loaded with barnes 180gr TSX and got a .6MOA from it. My best bet is that its a slightly faster powder.

I tried Vhita vouri N135 for 168 gr Nosler J4's and 147gr FMJ's. got one moa with it. at 2900 for 168's and 2970 for the N135. my guestimate N150 would be optimum as there is alot of airpsace in case at 48grain load.

IMR 4350 or RL 15 seems to be the best combination for the .30-06 180's. the H4831 is too slow of a powder for the .06. probably a hot magnum primer may help but down-load by a good two grains or so.
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Unread 08-28-2009, 05:48 AM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

patomaster

Is it not a bad thing to have to little powder in a brass, for accurarcy?

Not same preassure in hot and cold weather.
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Unread 08-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

Accuracy in general is best when case is nearly filled or at times a bit compressed with a powder charge. the powder tends to be in the same position to the primer flame at all times. I was not able to experiment with other powders since i don't have them in stock. only got mid burning powders for my 147 gr .308 loads hence the N135 and for my .300 win mag.

hot and cold weather seems to effect ball powders more than extruded powders. too much airspace in the case is cause for me to shop around or try to find another powder, but seem to get decent accuracy with N135 for a light head. good enough for plinking at cans and steel poppers up to 200 yards.- cheap bullet, low charge and still got a 8lb keg of N135 around..

does anyone have suggestions regarding powder choices for a .30-06 load 168gr or 180 with a 20" barrel? or should i cook up another load with H4831 powder using Fed Mag primers?
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Unread 08-28-2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

I have a dozen different 30-06's that I load for. I switched to RL-22 over the IMR loads that have worked so well over the years. The reason I switched is because I get about 100 fps more out of the RL-22, and I get full case fill with slight compression, and I like that.

My 2 go to bullets for the 30-06 are !65 grain pills in either the Nosler Ballistic Tip or the Sierra hunting bullet.

Usually for me the seating depth is the main area where I can achieve additional accuracy from 30-06's. Pick up a box of the Sierra's and play around a bit with the seating depth. Hopefully that will help.

I really have never seen a 30-06 that would not accurately shoot one of these loads-so it could be your firearm?? Tom.
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Unread 08-28-2009, 06:13 PM
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Re: 30-06 Need help

Will give it a try.
should i use regular rifle primer or should go for mag primer?
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