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25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

 
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

Yes seating depth makes a difference. The Sierra bullet seems to like to jump a ways. I load my above mentioned load OAL 3.150 I can't remember how far that is from the lands it has been so long since I measured it. Most will shoot well between 10 and 30 thousands off the lands. I have found that the flat base Sierra Pro Hunter shoots tighter than the Game King BT in a number of rifles I have had. The Bergers WILL shoot jumped. Some need to be jumped a looooog ways. Read the article on how to load hunting ammo for Berger bullets. I have not used them in the 25-06 but have shot them in a couple different rifles, 308 Win and 30X47 HBR.
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

Good luck getting .257 bergers right now, I've had them on back order since June! I tried 110 accubonds, 115 ballistic tips and sierra 117 sbts. I'm using the sierras this season as they were the most accurate in my 25-06 sendero. I use 57 grains of retumbo for .6 moa accuracy at 3075 fps. I can get much more velocity (3200 with 59.5 grains) but 57 is so consistent I am settling there for this season. Retumbo is a good powder for the heavy bullets, but you may run out of case capacity with the lighter ones. I don't like compressed loads and was having to pack em pretty tight with a 110 AB. Hope this helps.
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

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Yes seating depth makes a difference. The Sierra bullet seems to like to jump a ways. I load my above mentioned load OAL 3.150 I can't remember how far that is from the lands it has been so long since I measured it. Most will shoot well between 10 and 30 thousands off the lands. I have found that the flat base Sierra Pro Hunter shoots tighter than the Game King BT in a number of rifles I have had...
I guess what I'm wondering, is if there is something inherent about the 25-06 design, that requires a long jump to the lands for accuracy - or pressure control? I have noticed a lot of guys (myself included) report best performance, w/ a COL that leaves them w/ a jump of 0.050" - 0.150".

I first noticed this when trying to work up a load for a Ruger No.1-B. Just could not get anything to work seated within a "normal" distance from the lands, & then realized that the factory WW Supreme 25-06 (Nosler 117CT) that shot so well, had a COL of 3.185". Been my starting point ever since - w/ Noslers in the 100 to 120 grain range.

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Good luck getting .257 bergers right now, I've had them on back order since June! I tried 110 accubonds, 115 ballistic tips and sierra 117 sbts. I'm using the sierras this season as they were the most accurate in my 25-06 sendero. I use 57 grains of retumbo for .6 moa accuracy at 3075 fps. I can get much more velocity (3200 with 59.5 grains) but 57 is so consistent I am settling there for this season. Retumbo is a good powder for the heavy bullets, but you may run out of case capacity with the lighter ones. I don't like compressed loads and was having to pack em pretty tight with a 110 AB. Hope this helps.
Out of curiousity, what seating depth seems to provide best performance in your Sendero?
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

I have real good results with Reloader 19 with Sierra 100gr(all varieties),and Nosler 115gr Silvertips.
I haven't every had any decent results with Barnes bullets,so I don't try them anymore.
Rifle is a Savage 110 FLP. I seat most of my loads .40 off the lands.
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

I never really thought about why my current 25-06 shoots so well with the bullet way off the lands. It is a Rem. sportsman 78 ( poor man's 700) action with a Shilen #6 SS 26" barrel in a H&S Precision stock. It will go in my casket with me when I die. I have had other 25-06 rifles, Rem 700 and Ruger #1 and have loaded for other people. Some rifles do shoot with the bullets close to the lands. The 700 Rem I had liked 117 Sierra PH and 52 grs. H-4831 with the bullet 10 thousands off the lands. As long as I get the accuracy with decent velocity I don't care how far off the lands I have to load a bullet. I will not load a hunting round closer than 10 thousands though. Got a bullet stuck once on a hunting trip and wasted half a day getting back to camp to poke it out with a cleaning rod and clean the powder out of the action. You live and learn.
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Re: 25-06 data, 100gr Nosler Etips, Barnes and 115 Bergers?

ok guys one more question.... I'm undecided on primers....

I have 1,000 9 1/2s and 2000 9 1/2Ms..... I looked for CCI 200s and 250s yesterday and couldnt find any, all I could find was 400s and 450s.

ya think I should go ahead w/ 9 1/2s or jus wait till I can get some 200s?
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