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.243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

 
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:58 PM
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

Dont quote me on this but I believe that it is 1800 fps for proper expansion. I will do a little research and see. I shoot 100 gr Barnes TSX out of my 25-06 and it has smoked every mule deer that I have shot with it.
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

Looked back in my notes. I had called a Barnes tech guy..Thad Stevens is what I have down. He said that the bullet will expand at 1600 fps but not effectively. For effective expansion, he said the bullet needs to be going around 1800 fps or faster.
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

the etip is made out of guilding metal which is harder than copper so it actually needs more speed to open up like a Barnes would. i think nosler says 2000 fps for proper expansion. the Barnes will do wonders for you.
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

From the horse's mouth- cool. Thanks guys!
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1800 fps makes sense for .243. For larger and slower calibers Barnes designs for about 1700 fps. The OP is GTG out to 500 yds even at sea level.

Also do not expect TSX or TTSX bullets to expand if they hit bone. Of the tip gets filled with bone material or collapses upon impact with bone, it will not expand reliably nor come apart like a lead bullet will. The wound channel will likely be larger due to accelerated bone fragments, however. Also the skeletal damage may put the animal down regardless.
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

I just want to ad my 2c.
I live in South Africa and hunt with the 90gr e-tip in my .243 win and it launches at 2980fps out of my 22" barrel. I have taken Impala, Blesbuck and Springbuck up to 309 meters without fail and with good penetrasion and expansion.
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Re: .243 Win TSX vs Etip vs HPBT on deer or hog

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1800 fps makes sense for .243. For larger and slower calibers Barnes designs for about 1700 fps. The OP is GTG out to 500 yds even at sea level.

Also do not expect TSX or TTSX bullets to expand if they hit bone. Of the tip gets filled with bone material or collapses upon impact with bone, it will not expand reliably nor come apart like a lead bullet will. The wound channel will likely be larger due to accelerated bone fragments, however. Also the skeletal damage may put the animal down regardless.
Just curious where you get that info. I have only ever recovered 1 Barnes it was a .280 remington shot at basically pbr. 10 feet at most. I recovered it in 4 parts at different extremities of the deer. Trust the skeletal damage will put the animal down. Probably 50 or so animals that haven't taken a step since i moved to shoulder with the tsx and ttsx. I. had to track a couple when I first moved to them shooting boiler room. Not anymore. Still curious about the reliable expansion thing. They will fill the freezer regardless. Shoot the shoulder put the animal down.
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