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180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

 
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Old 02-12-2005, 04:20 PM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

Ian.

I hear and understand. I would like to do this and will try if the funds are available. However I may have to pick a bullet and adjust the powder and the OAL to make it work the best that it can. I have had great results with almost every bullet I have run down my bbl if I spend the time to pick the right powder component. I already have a number of suitable powders to try so this may be the variable that gives me the most leeway (and can afford). I will of course work up to a suitable (safe and accurate)load. I just like to weed out the "I shoot 46 grains of unique cuz uncle bob used to do it. Worked for him and works for me." sort of recipies. Thats why I request a published max when some one gives an exact recipie.

As I prepare for this hunt please jump in and give me your thoughts. I am reading all of them with much attention.

I sure hope I get the draw.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

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one was at 13 yards- shot him right between the eyes the other was at 150 yards through both shoulders. I have taken a bunch of different animals with a MK including two buffalo a month ago (one with the 308 and one 425 yard shot with a Lapua- that 300gr MK penetrated over 40 inches and was a nice mushroom on the opposite side!) My rifle shoots the MK the best so that's what I hunt with! Black bears in my opinion are not really tough game and kill easily.
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

This question is for both Chris and Ian (and whomever else wants to answer) and is a slight hijacking og my own thread but we can keep it short. Why is there the perception that bear are so hard to put down. I know I think that for some reason, but why I wonder.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:01 PM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

Smaller bears are not hard to kill, but even small bears can chew and scratch the heck out of a human so they should be approached with caution. Same size as a deer but way more potential to hurt you. BIG bears are tougher to kill. Much more heavily boned than deer, much bigger muscles, more fat to contend with. Bottom line is, you wound a deer and follow him, put him down - he is not likely to chew on your ankle. You wound a bear and sometimes, very rarely, he decides that was not a nice thing for you to have done and he comes for you. Very rare but it happens so why not avoid that and put him on the ground first shot... Use the best bullet for that job and hit him right - no big deal.
Big autumn bears are different critters than big spring bears, their shape even changes. Big fall bears can be at least 20% heavier than in the spring, probably a bunch more - they got butts on them about like Opra's, maybe bigger. When they sit down they look like a big pear - big butt displacement. Belly about drags the ground when they walk. Ears are real tiny, not prominent. No lanky look to them, they swagger.
Big or little, hit the bear correctly and he is yours. All about control, so go for the nervous system initially and the game is in your hands. I like heavier bullets and stout construction solely for the raking or the "precision shots to the spleen" taken as he is going straight away. Nice to destroy the pelvis, blast the spinal column and still penetrate through a foot or two of gut-juice, then the diaghragm and into the lungs. Takes a stout bullet to do all that. When I did bear control I shot a lot of bears with 180 grain bullets ('06 factory loads), mostly going away shots and when I switched to 220 grainers my number of shots per kill dropped significantly.
Despite what you hear, they do not equate to whitetails. Mess up and they can really get your heart-rate cranked. I been there a few times - usually after dark and no fun. That is when the 870 with about 7 or 8 slugs in it got the call.
Hunting situations are more controled, but many times the bears come to bait at the end of legal light so you want to dump him right there.
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I agree with Ian they should be approached with caution as he put it they will bite back, however- they die just the same- it's been my experience that animals react poorly to bullets- put a well thought out, well aimed shot into them and they will go down. But take Ian's advice over mine- he has a hell of alot more experience than I do!!!
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:07 PM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

Thanks Ian. I told you I was going to have a few questions for ya. I appreciate you straightening this question out for me.


Thanks to you Chris as well. It's good to have similar input come from forum members that I've seen posting good info for as long as I've been with the site.
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Old 02-17-2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: 180 grain Accubond loads for a .308 win

Just a quick question well your on it. Shoulder or lungs which is best? Normally with all my game I try for a shoulder shot as it dumps um right there, but in your experiance which is best for bear? I ask only because I will be taking my teen daughter up to Maine on our first father-daughter bear hunt and am open to all info.

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