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Old 03-17-2012, 08:49 PM
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WOW Think im even more biased now to 300. BIGGER REALLY IS BETTER AND MORE POPULAR

Now my next question is, for deer would you all shoot 168 or 175 gr bergers. I shoot Nosler BTs in everything for years and loved them until I shot Bergers in my 280AI and my dads 7MM MAG, and the groups went from .8s and .7 in my dads 7mag to .5 from a stock browning A-Bolt. My 280 is just one ragged hole with bergers.

Ok back on track now will the 168VLD hold up to velocity vs impact on a deers shoulder or neck like a 175VLD. I know the heavier the bullet the better BC and all is but which is better when rubber meets the road. I dont want the 168s to just blow up on impact and wound an animal.
Your question on the 168 blowing up or not is a valid one. I have personally had three blow ups , one in a 300 ultra, and two in a 7 mag, using the VLD. I love them, but recently I have had some " issues" with them. As far as your caliber choice, both have their benefits, given what you said were your conditions, I would opt for for the 7 WSM. ( I am a 7 mm slut). There are some great bullets avail now in 7 bore, more than ever. The 270 WSM might even be an option. Your ploy is a age old dilemma, but it is fun figuring out which way to go. It is all good!

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Old 03-17-2012, 09:03 PM
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Good to hear about the blowups. I DONT want a 270wsm just for the fact that bullet selection SUCKS and ive never been a 270 fan.

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Re: wsm

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WOW Think im even more biased now to 300. BIGGER REALLY IS BETTER AND MORE POPULAR

Now my next question is, for deer would you all shoot 168 or 175 gr bergers. I shoot Nosler BTs in everything for years and loved them until I shot Bergers in my 280AI and my dads 7MM MAG, and the groups went from .8s and .7 in my dads 7mag to .5 from a stock browning A-Bolt. My 280 is just one ragged hole with bergers.

Ok back on track now will the 168VLD hold up to velocity vs impact on a deers shoulder or neck like a 175VLD. I know the heavier the bullet the better BC and all is but which is better when rubber meets the road. I dont want the 168s to just blow up on impact and wound an animal.
Nothing smaller than the 210g VLD for my WSM
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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Nothing smaller than the 210g VLD for my WSM
No doubt. 210s and 230s for me. I don't even mess with anything lighter than 200 grains in the 300 WSM anymore. I'll admit it. I've obtained a BC fetish with this round.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:54 PM
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The fact is your going to have to push a 210 VLD in a 300WSM over 2900fps to even match the 270 WSM at a 1000 yards and that's just to match energy, drift and velocity don't come close to the 270 WSM until you push the 210 over 3100fps which isn't happening in a WSM.
There are two bullets for the 270 WSM that will run .650+ BC and go over 3000fps and the 170 Berger coming with a .703 will be almost if not impossible for the 300 WSM to catch. Compare a bullet like the 200gr Accubond against the 170 Berger in the 270 and it's ugly for the 300 on everything possible!!!
Soon the 270 will have 3 bullets over 160gr and over .650 BC, that's plenty of selection on the top end plus having a great selection on the lower end for closer range or lighter recoil plus better brass brass than the 7WSM.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:35 AM
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Welcome to the WSM madness. I have had one in the past. For your yardages I think you would do well with a mono metal bullet like the Barnes, Hornaday GMX, or the Nosler E-tip. I usually don't suggest these bullets, but since you are only going to 600 max, there is no need for a heavy bullet. If you run the mono metal bullet in a 165-180 grain, you will be good for those distances no problem. You can run a 165 over 3100fps maybe more. If you want to stick with a traditional lead bullet, then go with a bonded bullet of some type.

Now as for caliber... let me muddy the waters. So I know you are stuck on the 300WSM train, but why don't get off at the next stop and take a peak at a couple different 7mm's. I think you would be well suited for the 284 Winchester, and 7mmSAUM. The Saum will use about 10 grains less powder and shoot almost the same speed as the WSM. It is a very efficient little round and will do very well. Now for the .284 Winchester, it is a rebated rim that will work on a standard bolt face. It will send the 140-160 with near magnum speeds and give you better barrel life than the magnums. My uncle has killed many whitetails with this round for a couple decades in his old Winchester lever. He has since retired the rifle, but it worked very well. Both of these rounds are not all that popular and a little different from the norm. So there is my $.02 worth. Crunch these numbers and I think you'll be impressed.

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Old 03-18-2012, 05:05 PM
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I do like the 284win but the only thing is I just had a 280Ackley built last summer and dont really have the need for something so close in ballistics to that round when I can just shoot 280Rem loads.
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