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Old 12-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

I currently don't own any large caliber rifles or custom guns. I am looking for a good 500yd elk(mountain hunting) rifle and I was going to buy a Sako Tecomate 300WSM, until I had a long conversation with one of my fathers shooting buddies yesterday. He has done alot of long range shooting(500- 1000yds), but not alot of elk hunting. He is trying to sway me towards a 7Mag Sendero. I have done alot of reading on hear and it don't seem either has a real advantage. Am i missing something? FYI-I will be reloading and hope to maybe shoot a little farther with some practice, practice, practice.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

Once you get to shooting 500 aint realy that far. A Sendero,BVSS or other heavy magnum/varmint contoured barrel would be easier to practice and hit with but a real pain to haul uphill. A factory sporter that shoots MOA is enough to hunt with to 500 and a lot easier to carry out, specialy if you fill a tag!
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:44 PM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

7mm's are great... but 30 cal are better for elk.

If your only going to 500 yards there is no point hauling a 12lb+ rifle around (the Senduro).
I know that the senduro's are getting an almost legendary status as a rifle that delivers alot for the money, but no remington is a SAKO.
I dont know much about the SAKO A7, but over all it has everything that a elk rifle should be, but so does the remmy.

All my rifles are light, including my .338 RUM. I find the recoil is worth the portability of a sporter. That being said, you need to know that you can shoot the light gun-magnum caliber well. Not many can, and it does no one more harm than yourself to shoot "to much gun".

The benifits of the Senduro is a heavy gun is easier to shoot, and the HS stock on the Senduro is likely a little better than the Bell and carlson on the A7.

Either gun, if its for elk, I would go .30 cal
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:58 PM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

It really comes down to preference. I'd prefer the Sako as I've had some good ones, and I like the portability. Pick what you'll shoot the most. Neither is a bad choice.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:56 PM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

I can't see you going wrong at 500 and less with the 300 WSM.

Sounds like you just ran into somebody with a caliber preference. A few years ago, I was looking for 243, and I had mentioned it to a guy I worked with. He went on and on about how the 25/06 was so much more awesome, blah blah blah. I told him that I was after a short action, and for the ranges I was wanting to shoot it would work out better, not to mention a little more shooting comfort, and ammo availability (rural AK). He never was able to tell me what was so much more awesome about the 25/06 that I had to have that rather than a 243.

Just look at the loadings available for the 2, and start comparing ballistics. There are more calibers than I can comprehend floating around currently, and they all do certain things great. You have to find what you're looking for. I suggest continuing to look into the 300 WSM.

And no, I don't own one. I actually don't own any short mags.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:30 AM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

This just my preference ...

If I have choose between the .300 WSM vs 7MM Mag, I'd pick the the 7MM Mag.

However, if it's between the .300 Win Mag and 7MM Mag, I'd pick the .300 Win Mag.

That said, I highly recommend the .300 Win Mag.

Good luck!
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:27 AM
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Re: Would like some opinions onto a good 500yd rifle?

My first elk rifle was a 7 MM Rem mag & it killed elk. That said, Elk are BIG animals & I soon decided to go 30 caliber or bigger. I made that decision because of a HUGE bodied elk I shot in the shoulder & wouldn't have recovered the elk if not for the previous shot that made it to his lungs. His massive shoulder absorbed all the energy the 7 MM Rem had to offer. Yes, that doesn't happen often, but I decided not to go with a cartridge that might not work on an animal I'm hunting. Now my light elk rifle is a .300 Weatherby & my heavy elk rifle is a .338/.378 Weatherby.

A .300 WSM is a ballistic clone of the .300 Win mag so whatever the .300 WM will do, the .300 WSM will do as well.

For a 500 yard elk rifle, either the 7 MM Rem mag or the 300 WSM will do, but the .300 WSM has the potential to throw a heavier bullet with better penetration. Better penetration allows "good hits" from less than ideal angles. For that reason I offer a strong recommendation for choosing the .300 WSM over the 7 MM Rem if all else is equal.

I also would prefer not to cary a Sendero weight rifle up & down mountains for a week. Go with a sporter-weight rifle that shoots pretty well and that you will be able to shoot after you hoof it up & down mountains for 5 days.

For a 500 yard rifle, I'm confident the 300 WSM is a better choice than the 7 MM Rem, but not so much better that I wouldn't consider a 7 MM Rem mag. if the price/gun was "right".

I've never shot a Sako that didn't shoot well enough to hammer an elk at 500 yards, or 700 yards for that matter. That gives me hope in the Tecomate. The few reviews of people who have bought these rifles are disappointing. The Sako is definitely a better choice than a Sendero for carrying up & down mountains, but a Savage Weather-Warrior would likely shoot as well or better for less money.
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