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Old 12-18-2013, 11:09 AM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

I think that there are two components to becoming proficient at shooting game at long range(+500 yards), the first is the ability of all your gear being set up to hit a target in a given set of conditions, and basic shooting skills. It's a very important component and critical to proceeding onto the hunting part. It's the hunting part that moves the process from being a static situation to becoming substantially more dynamic with every shot at game offering a unique set if variables. Personally, the think the first part has been the tip of the iceberg. Placing a single killing shot into the vital area on an animal at long range can vary from being a chip shot to being virtually impossible depending on the conditions. The most challenging part of this sport for me is being able to distinguish between the two. IMO.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:33 AM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

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I second that. Well said!!!

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Old 12-18-2013, 11:40 AM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

As others have eluded it's all about shot placement and the bullet used. If bullet has high sectional density and adequate velocity, it penetrates, so put it in the vitals and the elk dies.

Remember literally hundreds of Elk are killed every year with pointy sticks.
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:48 PM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

LOL re: the pointy sticks. I grew up hunting big Mule Deer - as in BIG - in the Cascade mountains of Southern Oregon - around Klamath Falls, - back in the 50's - and there were not too many Elk in the area back then (had to go out to Hart Mountain - 60 or so miles outside of town) - but the ole 30-30 (in my case - a .32 Winchester Special) - would bring em down if they were hit right. More Elk have since moved down from Central Oregon - and a couple of years ago only about 10 miles outside of town - a huge 7 x 7 (scored 405) was taken - that weighed 1,100 pounds. That monster just hung out way over the bed of the pickup truck.

And while I have not done a lot of long range shooting - 500+ yard type - I am familiar with the bullet characterestics of what makes a good long range round - plus the proper "compensation" - and there is even a round/paper wheel type/that turns to different settings for a quick and dirty solution, righto?

I think for me - and pehaps for others - the biggest variable is the wind - and any elevation change there might be. A flot shot - on a calm day - with a good rest - and no "Buck Fever" - is probably the ideal - and then it all can go to hell from there, eh?
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:01 PM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

That was supposed to read "flat" shot.

And I have read good things - BC/SD wise - about a 190 grain bullet - which used to be factory loaded for the .06 - but haven't seen it lately.

If I can get close to 2,900 fps with a 190 grain bullet - I think that might be one I will be trying to fine tune.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:29 PM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

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You will need at least a 28" barrel to get 2900fps w/ a 190gr bullet in 30-06. A closer approximation for a 26" barrel would be 2900fps w/ 180gr and 2800fps w/ 190gr.

@ 800yards w/ 1.77" scope height and 230 yard zero:

180gr @ BC= 0.508; 1613 fps, 1039 ftlbs, -152.1" drop

190gr Nosler ABLR BC= 0.640; 1778 fps, 1334 ftlbs, -145.1" drop

So I see the 30-06 as doable to 800 yards, with a good range finder. +1300ftlbs will do fine on an elk. Almost 1800 fps will open up the bullet. Twelve foot of drop is a lot and it drops 4' from 700 to 800 so the rangefinder is a must.

Good luck and good hunting!!!

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Old 12-18-2013, 05:59 PM
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Re: What it takes to get to 800 yards

KB - thanks a "moose". Wow - I have read about 1,000 yard shooters holding hiiiigh - but over 12 feet at "only" 800 yards still takes some getting used to for moi.

Will take sum practice for sure.

And for these calcs - is a 230 yard zero about 3" low at 300 yards?

Again - really appreciate the particulars.
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