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Old 10-22-2011, 06:47 AM
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Re: what to do?

A lot of factory barrels are just dogs! Can't and shouldn't expect them to shoot 'bug hole' groups. They're designed and built for the average guy/hunting situation, not for 300+yds. Winchester went thru a rough patch where quality wasn't job one. Made some good looking rifles that didn't shoot. NOT your grandpas' pre-'64 model 70. The outside of that barrel might be nice and shiny, but, the inside probably looks like it was made with a hammer and chisel. And, talk about the fit to the receiver!!!! NOW you can tell me about all those factory rifles that DO shoot tight little groups at 750+,,,,,, but I won't be listening, 'cause I know better.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:03 AM
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Umm. Ok. I am well aware of the quality of the pre 64 70's. I don't recall telling anyone about factory rifles shooting tiny groups at 750 yards. Nor do I expect mine to. Just wanting to exhaust every option I can before rebarelling the rifle. But if I have to then I will. No sense in putting a new motor in a car if it just needs new plugs.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:07 AM
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Sounds like a bad barrel to me. I bought a winnie back in 2005-2006, right before they went under. They turned out some sorry firearms abck then that were not worthy of the Winchester name. FN bought them out and has restored some excellent Quality Control Management to the operation (as now reflected in their price). It seems a lot of mfg's. go through this at one time or another.

Do you notice any "tight" places in the barrel when you run a patch through? That was the problem I encountered. I did the whole rebedding, recrowning, different bullets, aftermarket trigger thing with only mild improvement. I even tried the lapping bullets from Tubb.

I would suggest it is time to toss the barrel. You can spend a lot of time, money & aggrevation on a poor barrel trying to make it shoot. It isn't supposed to be that hard. Twist on a new barrel and start having fun.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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That's about the time frame mine was manufactured. Did you have a new barrel installed? What is the approximate cost of having that done? I agree on getting expensive trying all the different combinations of bullet, powder and so on. Eventually I'm sire you could buy a new barrel for that price
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:30 PM
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Mr rifle was a NIB purchase, so after fidddling with it for 8 mos., I paid to have it shipped back to them and told them to fix it. That is when I first learned that Winchester had gone under and been purchased by FN. The people at FN (old Win employees) told me that while FN was not obligated to warranty old Winchester products - they would stand behind their work on this rifle. They got back to me and confirmed the barrel was bad.

Unfortunately, under the new FN management, they were no longer producing that model or caliber, so no new barrels were available. They gave me the choice of shipping it back and living with it, or giving me credit (full retail price) towards a new firearm (Browning or Winchester mfg.) of my choice - also at full retail price.

I chose to put another $275 cash on top of the trade and went with a NIB Browning A-Bolt in 300 WM. This was back when Obama had just been elected and there was a run on guns and ammo. I took what they had. I don't think they will offer you the same this far down the road, but the cost of a phone call would be well worth it. especially since you have eliminated everything else. The word af a local gunsmith would carry some additional weight with them. I found the guys in the Winchester repair dept. to be top notch and a delight to work with. Good Luck.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:38 PM
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LOADED i-4350 AND 165 BALISTIC TIPS IN MINE AND SHOT A .33 AND A .37
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