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Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

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Unread 08-28-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

I would get the savage. The sub-moa is nothing more than a standard vangaurd that was tested for accuracy at the factory and found to shoot at least .750" at 100yards. They then charge an extra 300 bucks. So basically if you go and buy the standard vangaurd hopping for a good one you'll be out of luck. Basically weatherby is looking for a way to make extra money for doing nothing.

What if remington test fired all their sticks and charged $300 more for the sub-moa shooters. No one would go out and buy a standard 700 that didn't shoot.

I have a few savages and most have shot under an inch with a good handload, even with standard sporter barrels. I only ever had one dud it was a 7mm-08 and shot 3"@ 100yards.
I screwed on a premium tube and had a 1/2 moa gun.
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Unread 08-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

I know of several of both brands that shoot well but lean towards the Savage...
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Unread 08-28-2005, 10:48 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

Do yourself a favor and buy the savage. The only area I would say the vangaurd beats the savage is in the synthetic stocks, but since your looking at the 112 with a laminated stock, you should not have a problem. I have 2 savages and both shoot 1/2" or under at 100 yards straight out of the box (one is a 112 with a light sporter barrel). If the out of the box accuracy isn't enough for you it is much easier and cheaper to tune a savage action than a weatherby action. In fact several gunsmiths on this board do not suggest the weatherby action for a custom rifle. Also if you plan on wearing out a couple of barrels the savage barrel can easily be changed by the owner. I would suggest you go to and check out some of the custom rifles and tech articles, then try to compare a savage to a weatherby, by then hopefully you will see that in terms of functionality and sheer accuracy the weatherby can not touch a "cheaper" savage.
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Unread 08-29-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

I too have an excellent 112BVSS, mine in 300WM. It would be my first choice, however, if you really like the wthby, hae a look at the rifles sold under the Howa brand. These are the same rifles as the wthby (Howa provides barreled actions to wthby stamped wthby) but are stocked with a variety of stocks from boyds. Several of them are well suited to LR shooting due to their heavy varmit design, and the 223s that I have seen and played with shot very well indeed. I have a quarter that carries the scars from 4 rounds of 40gr Winchester whitebox cheap stuff from walmart launched from 100yds.
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Unread 09-02-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

Thanks for the replies. I'll probably get the Savage.
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Unread 08-23-2010, 08:47 PM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

go with the savage,unless you want the weatherby name,im thinking the sub moa is just another way to seperate you from your money.savages dont need to advertise and charge more they are better and made here
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Unread 08-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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Re: Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA vs. Savage 112BVSS

Another stamp of approval for the Savage from me! If you want the Vanguard, as stated a previously, get the Howa and save some money. You still will need to get a trigger job, and a bedding job wouldn't hurt either for the Howa.

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