Originally Posted by bigngreen
Our group of guys, most years kill between 10 and 15% of the elk killed in a large unit in MT, most die to a 270 cal or smaller. My 270 WSM shoots a .650+ BC bullet with over .300 section density over 3000fps easy, the bull I smoked this year at 865 was hit with over 1600ft lbs of energy at 2120fps, one bullet cleaned out a large path through the liver and one lung I shot him again even though it was not needed through the lower shoulder and the bullet cleaned another path clean through him. At worst that's right with a 7mag with the best bullets it can shoot so just how is that inadequate????
The only elk that was lost last year was shot with the largest cal an 8mm mag. and the most shot up elk I've seen was done with a 338 Win but those had ZERO to do with the cal they were shooting!!!!
Not everyone is capable of placing every shot within .5 MOA of their aim point every time or even consistently.
Ballistically the .270 is simply inferior to the 7mag and other calibers I recommded.
Yes you can kill an elephant with a .243 if the bullet is placed in exactly the right spot with enough energy to get there.
I don't know this guy or most who post here so I'm going to give the best recommendation I can for the "average guy" which is going to be considerably different from what will work for a very experienced guy who can place those shots and has the discipline to say "no" when everything is not exactly right.
There are exceptions to every rule, but they do not disprove the rule.
Remember too this is the "Basics Starting Out" forum and with that in mind usually it is the new people to the sport whom we are trying to help, not folks who have been doing it for 10-20-30 years.