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Old 11-15-2002, 06:12 PM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Well Jerry & WyoWhisper you two have me thinking. Objective-deer 600-700 yds max..The 300 win. on a 10-12# rig sounds good. A friend of mine has a 30/338 on a remington action 30inch HART barrel {remington taper ?}he claims weighs in at 11# scoped.I can buy it and a bunch of brass for $600.00 bases & rings included. Maybe a good placs to start. AGAIN THANKS FOR THE ADVICE PS A SMOKING 6.5 IS IN FUTURE.
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Old 11-15-2002, 07:31 PM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Howdy Flick,
The 300 sounds like a steaming deal to me! If the seller is a friend, see if you can toss a scope on it and shoot it. Looks like alot of rifle for the money, and the 300 Win. is not only a good cartridge to start with, it is a good one to stay with also. May all your shots be "X's" [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2002, 07:35 PM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

OOPS, I meant to say the 30-338 is a good cartridge to stay with. The difference between the 30-338 and the 300 Win. is not worth even mentioning, except the 30-338 is probably a little easier to load for!
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Old 11-16-2002, 12:17 AM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Flick,

You need to define what you are trying to accomplish. Your range, and accuracy requirements. The projects on this board for the most part are not for everyone. We design our rifles to suit a very narrow and specific need. 95% of all hunting does not require this.

Range and trajectory can be compensated by target turrents and a range finder. Flat, super fast magnums no longer become that necessary (under 700yds on deer). We choose them because we have the experience and desire to be cutting edge. Believe me when I say I shoot my '06 a whole bunch more then my LR rigs when hunting.

I would have no hesitation to take a 600yd shot with my '06 if the situation warranted it. Do I really need that 30 Gibbs? Nope, but I sure like my toys.

When starting out, keep it simple. Learn to shoot out to 500yds then think about what you truly need. A standard cartridge in a reg. hunting rifle will do all that and more.

Your best investment is in good optics (bino, scopes, rangefinder) and reloading supplies (practise, practise, practise). Most commerical off the rack rifles will give satisfactory performance with a little tuning.

But isn't dreaming fun..

Jerry
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Old 11-16-2002, 12:43 AM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Flick,

Here is my "light" gun.. in 300 Win. Mag.

26-27"#5 K&P countour like that of the VLS Fluted, with tactical vent system.
McMillan A3 Tactical stock Adj. Cheek piece
Jewel trigger
ruger bolt stop
Powder coated on all metal
Light force tapered bases.
Lightforce rings
Nightforce 5.5-20X56 NPRR1
Should weigh in at 10 lbs...

Deer to 1K and Elk to 500.. is what it is being built for...

Jerry Rice of Nor-Cal Precision is building it.

I have a 308 ( that is very similar to it ) that weighs about 14 lbs and there is a pic of it on my other post..

"Here's where I hunted this year" under long range hunting...

The 308 will shot into .3's with factory match ammo all day long.. I get .3's with hand loads from my bi-pod.. It will shoot 2" groups from the bench at 500 yards and about 3.5"-5" groups from the bi-pod to 750 yards...

any questions... holler at me...

[ 11-15-2002: Message edited by: *WyoWhisper* ]
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Old 11-16-2002, 09:55 AM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Now let me confuse you like I just did myself...

Compare this...

7STW 162 Gr Horn. SST 3100 fps
500 yards -39.89" 1742 ft.lbs 2201 fps
1000 yards -267.2 789.8 ft. lbs 1407 fps

300WM 165 gr Horn. SST 3200 fps
500 yards -40.04" 1608 ft lbs 2095fps
1000 yards -293.7 593.9 ft lbs 1273 fps

300WM 190 gr SMK 3000 fps
500 yards -43.76 1852 ft lbs 2095 fps
1000 yards -296.3 792 ft lbs 1370 fps

the STW still beats the 300wm with a heavier bullet..

Hmmmm... gotta think this one over....
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Old 11-16-2002, 10:23 AM
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Re: THINKING OF A NEW LIGHT GUN

Wyo,Just to let you know.I get 3250 with the 162 A-Max in my stw.With a b.c. of 715..That is a Lazer...............
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