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Old 05-05-2010, 11:11 AM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

Thanks Mopar440...I'll investigate the Target a bit...Who are you referring to when you mentioned the guy that builds custom savages for $1500? I don't really know what range I'm looking for...I'll use it for target initially to get a feel for LR shooting and will also be going after a pdog or two. My thoughts initially were to just get a good setup that was accurate and built in a way that I can expand/modify when that seems appropriate. From reading, it seems the savage action offers a pretty good starting point and with the apparent ease of swapping out barrels with that action it seems attractive. I don't know what to make of all the different stocks. I definitely will want to put a bipod up front for the pdog excursions. Can you explain what an "anti cant" and "Cosine" indicator are and how they are used? Probably something to do with keeping things vertical I'd guess. Also, back to stocks a minute...is bedding pretty much a given to do? Do most setups use a fully free floating barrel? I've read about some that have a contact point at the end.f
Appreciate all the info...
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:22 PM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

the savage 6br is a good choice. also a good nightforce or leupold . i use burris rings pos align with the plastic inserts to get the 10-15 moa to get to 1000 yards. cheapest and best way to mount a scope for long range
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:08 AM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

anti cant is simply a level to keep everything plum so when you adjustments make scope adjust they are just windage or elevation not both if your rifle is canted left you dial in 20 clicks to move to a far target you also have move the bullet impacted left

Angle Cosine Indicator is a protractor it gives you the angle of your rifle used alot for people that hunt in mountainous areas angle will change the way bullet drops shooting up hill your bullet drops more down less drop used with a ballistic chart or software

Kevin Rayhill @ www.stockadegunstocks.com is who i was referring to he has not build one for me i got my stock form him great stock and right on time of what he quated me. He has built rifle's very affordable it depends alot on what you want some people will have him build it and they will finish the stock and bed it to save some money give him a call I'm shure he will quate you what you want their are several people that build off savage actions www.SharpShootersSupply.com he makes the best aftermarket trigger for a savage, makes nice stocks, and a of master Trueing and Timing savages also i know www.centershotrifles.com has built some nice savages and makes a really nice muzzle break i'm shure thier others but these are the ones i have exsperence with

bedding and a free floating fore arm are standard most do's for accuracy among other things
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:36 PM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

Can't believe I almost missed this one. The Savage target action is a great option whether in the built rifle or buying just the action and mounting an aftermarket barrel. I currently own the Mod 12 Low Profile in 300WSM. The thing is a real shooter. I have nothing but good things to say. The target action that is on the precision varminter and F-class can be adjusted 1.5# to 6oz if you want a trigger that light. 10 to 16 oz is where I would want it. Just remember, no gunsmith necessary. The barrels are generously floated with good solid steel pillar bedding.

The 6mmBR is definitely a good starting point as stated. I have a feeling the HS stock that the BR comes in is all you will need until you want a different feel. Do a good break in on the factory barrel and you will probably squeeze out a .2 group with the factory tube. I know with mine, I shot a .233" group when it was still a 308 before it was rechambered. I did not have the action glassed at that time either.

The 6BR is a cartridge I plan to get some day or one of its variants. It is a very good varmint and target round. You should be able to take deer size game within a reasonable distance.

As far as optics are concerned, my suggestion would be the 8-32 or 10-50 Sightron SIII. I was able to look at one at the Williamsport benchrest competition. The clarity in overcast weather on 50x was phenomenal. It was raining and some very light fog and heavy clouds. I had no problem using the side focus and adjusting to perfect clarity at 1K. I know that there were Nightforce and Leupold's there as well. That was the majority of optics being used. There was only one family there using both the 8-32 and 10-50 scopes.

Burris rings and an 20MOA EGW base would be my choice. I use the Signature Zee Rings. This combination offer a ton of adjustment for me out of my Nikon scope. I use a 300yard zero.

Welcome to the addiction,
Tank
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:07 PM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

Many thanks to all for the great info...I've come across a deal that I'd like your opinions on...Here's the specs on this...$2700 is the asking price...What do you think?

-6mm PPC rb/lp, .262 nk.
-Polished Farley action.
-McMillan stock,
-Jewell Trigger,
-Farley rings, -
-Weaver 36-T scope - fine cross hairs
-Krieger 1-14 4 groove bbl with less than 100 rounds down the tube.
-Barrel smithed by Dietz.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:17 PM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

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Many thanks to all for the great info...I've come across a deal that I'd like your opinions on...Here's the specs on this...$2700 is the asking price...What do you think?

-6mm PPC rb/lp, .262 nk.
-Polished Farley action.
-McMillan stock,
-Jewell Trigger,
-Farley rings, -
-Weaver 36-T scope - fine cross hairs
-Krieger 1-14 4 groove bbl with less than 100 rounds down the tube.
-Barrel smithed by Dietz.
I like everything but the twist in the barrel. A 1:14 twist won't allow you to shoot the heavier bullets. You will be stuck with shooting a max weight of 75grns. For shooting 600+ yards you really need to be able to shoot the 100+ grain bullets. There was one guy using the 36x weaver when I was in Williamsport, but I would prefer an adjustable power. The 6PPC is a great caliber though. Everything else is pretty good for the deal. What model McMillian is being offered in the deal?

Tank
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:47 PM
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Re: Suggestions for Getting Started

Thanks Tank...the stock is a McMillian light BR...forgot to mention that the deal also comes with a Kreiger 6mm BR barrel in 1-8 twist so that should allow using the heavier bullets I'd think...
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