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Unread 03-13-2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

I was kinda figuring on going with a 7mm/30/338 magnum of some sort. Either win mag, RUM's or what not, not sure yet. Maybe even a 280AI on the low end, who knows. That's part of the reason I posted this question.

Screech-thanks for clarifying. I thought you meant long range, just needed to make sure, that's all. And I do agree, what is the point in having something that only works half of the time. However, I plan on shooitng it alot, wnough to where I know exactly how she will shoot in whatever condition. As far as the scope goes, I will likely upgrade that first once funds become available. So this will be a rifle that I will have to shoot for about 5-7 years, I am guessing, before I can have a custom. And like I said, I won't take a shot unless it is one that I am comfortable taking, knowing without a doubt that I will make a clean shot.

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Unread 03-14-2007, 04:58 AM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

I just picked up my Tikka, it shot pretty well for using plain federal ammo. I was getting 1 inch groups @ 100 and I wasn't using a vise. But now that I think about it I spent a total of 730 on the rifle and a little over 4 on my scope, I wount even go into what I have spent on my loading equipement lol!
Stay away from a Rum since the only rifle offered is the Remington (you may wish to check that out since I was shopping for a left hand rifle). The only reason I say that is because you will spend around 800 or more on the rifle alone The 7mm rem and 300 win are very popular and you will have a large variety of rifles to choose from. The 7 mm will have less recoil and do just fine on the game, but the 300 will produce more knock down at long range. Best bang for your buck (in the lower price range) in my opinion will be the Savage or the Tikka and both have adjustable triggers. If you are looking to shoot out to 600 + yards, then you are looking for a rifle that will shoot around half inch groups. In all honesty, you will need a little luck on your side when you pick out your rifle since the only way to guaranee that kind of accuracy is to purchase an expensive custom job. I hope this helps some.
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Unread 03-14-2007, 05:52 AM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

I'm sure that if you do some leg work and shop around you could fine something on the 'used' rack that would fit your bill. It takes a while of looking but the deals are out there. I looked long and hard for a left handed any thing for quite a while. Just wanted the action for a donor. Found a REM 700 BDL w/VX-22 Leuy 3x9 in 338 Win Mag. All for less than $500. Turns out it shot very well (after just a little tuning).

I also would recommend the Super Sniper scope. Have a 10X and 16X and am perfectly satisfied.
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Unread 03-14-2007, 06:43 AM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

Some on this site might disagree, but for $1000 retail, you can meet your needs. It wouldn't be optimum, but would definitely meet the requirements you listed :

-Capable of shooting accuratly out to 600-800 yards
-Capable of taking elk at up to these distances
-The flatter shooting the better
-Effective cost of shooting
-Possibility of doing a custom build from this
-Ease/cost effectiveness of improvements
-Portability, durability and most of all, reliablity

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What I would do. I'm biased to the 7mm Rem Mag, so thats what I'd choose for a caliber. I'm also biased to the Remington 700. The ADL is the cheapest version of the 700, but I've seen these shoot 'lights out'. Here is a Rem 700 ADL in 7mm Rem Mag on Gunbroker for a buy it now price of $370

I'd then buy the absolute best optics I could afford with the remainder. Considering that you will need $50 or so for some reasonable base/rings (Leupold base/rings will work fine).

Leupold base $21
Leupold 1" Rings $23

Then you need a scope, we have around $580 left for a scope.
Here is a Leupold 4.5x14x40 AO Matte for a buy it now price of $520.

This leaves you with $60 for shipping/handling etc. Now if you can save some money through your employer, thats even better.

You'll probably want to bed the action, that will cost you $1 for a roll of electrical tape, $5 for some JB Weld. And a couple more dollars for a release agent.

If you reload, you still have enough left over for dies and a shellholder.

There you go, a legitimate 600-800 yard rifle for $1000. You will also have a rifle that can be upgraded in the future (stock, barrel etc.). You can use the duplex crosshair on the Leupold scope as a rangefinder out to 600yds given some practice (a laser rangefinder is MUCH better though). I've personally used a reticle to range and take big game to nearly 900yards, but it is NOT quick and takes a lot of practice.

Hope this helped,
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Unread 03-14-2007, 12:15 PM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

You can get a new 7mm Mag WBY Vanguard or Howa for under $500. Put a nice Nikon Monarch or Bushnell 4800 on it and still have change left over for the ammo. That combo will shoot with the best of them [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Unread 03-15-2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

If you want to have the energy to kill deer and elk at long range yet still be able to shoot it quite a bit I would look into the 300wsm, winnie, or saum. the 7mmstw or remington mag is good to. just weather you are a 7mm type of guy or 30cal.
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Unread 03-15-2007, 02:34 PM
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Re: Suggestions for first LRH gun?

You don't need a custom and a $2000 scope to be reliable and accurate. There are some very good factory rifles out there and good scopes in the $400-500 range that WILL track well and fit the bill. Custom jobs and S&B scopes are nice, but the incremental quality increase for the price is out of proportion.

I buy the best equipment I can, but I shoot a $600 Sendero with a $800 scope/mount. I could have cut the price of the scope in half and still been satisfied (Nikon Buckmaster vs Tactical) and hit the $1000 target. I've wrung the gun out to 800 yds and was more than happy with the result, especially considering my 600yd self-imposed range limit on elk.
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