Bounty hunter, i disagree with you 100%. $260 ish for a set of rings and bases that will give 100% reliability for a lifetime is a bargain. You may only have a $400 rifle, but $400 rifes can still be accurate, and a $400 remington can be gradualy upgraded into a $1500+ tack driver, and your badger Ord rings and bases will still fit and work. believe me, i have gone down the road of that 'll do, ive treid many many types for bases and rings, ive fitted hundreds and hundreds of scopes to bases to rifles and none are better than badger ord. never mind the cost of the rifle, what about the cost of the hunt, can you afford to have a $50 set of scope mounting kit fail on a $1000 hunt? my philosophy on my hunting gear is: would i be prepared to trust my life to that equipment? if the answer is no, then i don't use it or buy it. by the same tocken, you are trusting a life of a magnificent game animal to the same cheap inferior pile of crap, buy once, but right, we are all to poor not to. Badger Ord equipment will take lots of abuse ( look at Daves post), my hunting kit is treated like tools and equipment and not mollycoddled too. not much of the cheaper kit will stand the slightes knock.
It amaizes me that hunters spend $30000 plus on a 4X4, hundreds on clothing, boots, scent, calls,travel,flights, food, tags, licenses, ammo, guide fees, the list is endless, they spend all that money only to have a hunt ruined by a $50 set of rings and base that failed.. ha.. when that happens, how much has that $50 set of mounting kit realy cost you?
and what is $260 these days?? its 2 nights out in town with a steak and some beer and maybe some movie tickets thrown in.. me,i'll stay in and watch TV this weekend, but i'll buy reliable scope mounting equipment next week.
But...did you ever think of just carrying the rifle instead of dragging it along behind you with that piece of green parachute cord.? Might not have to clean the mud out of the barrel as often that way.
Or...have Chris carry it. He's younger and stronger than you.
I've thought of that but I just can't bring myself to let someone else handle my gear for me. That Chris is a big one though, he could easily hump his gear and all my gear AND pull a 4-wheeler outta the mud.
Back on those rings and bases, Leupold, Redfield, Burris and others are fine gear and probabably do work for 98% of hunters but I'm afraid I'm a 2%'er, probably Pete too, and I believe Chris maybe also.
I probably have a few sets of Leupold bases and rings down in my stuff pile(s) and if I do I'll post here and send a set to Invicata39 if he's interested. I'll look later today sometime.
(I only needed to clean mud out of my barrel twice this trip! I'm gonna try the electricians tape over the muzzle some day but I just can't seem to bring myself to obscure the barrel on purpose. I generally visually check the barrel clean of obstructions once I'm close to the hunting zone(s) and I'm need to take that tape off to do so.)
Ive used leupold quick release, they work but aren't heavey duty enough. Double dovetail, useless, shoot loose, dovetailed front, 2 big screws rear, useless, shoot loose, not robust. and i don't care which manufacturer. weaver style, getting there but most of the stuff is cast and is just not reliable enough, pracisely machined enough, most have poor screw quality, many rings will mark your scope tube, shoot loose, not robust.Warne will not return to zero 100%, EAW so popular here in germany for thier swing of mounts, to many parts, to complicated, not robust, shoot loose with big scopes. Accuracy International, pile of aluminium crap that looks like it belongs on an air rifle, won't return to zero, the alloy is soft, the screws strip threads.
Leuplod Mk 4, IOR, Mounting solutions and other like them are all a variation on the Badger set up, they aren't much cheaper than Badger and bager are simply better quality, you can see that by just looking at them.
Yep Dave i guess i'm in the 2%. i can only use equipment effectively if i can have confidence in it. and BadgerOrd stuff is built like a tank, finished like a mercedes benz and realy doesn't cost all that much, they are certainly cheaper then EAW.
Well, I have a set of Badger Ord. bases and rings mounted. At present I have a 3-9X50 Leupold on it. I just purchased a Leupold boresighter that attatches to the end of the barrel via a magnet, how the heck do you sight your scope with this thing? I placed it where the instructions stated, but it seems quite possible to have the boresighter in the wrong position. Any input? any suggestions on boresighters? Also, many thanks for the posts. It is possible that the BO gear is overkill but I would rather have the good stuff from the get-go. I have not shot the gun yet, but I am sure I will need all the help I can get to make up for my inadequacies.
That bore sighter is quite a puzzle, an optical marvel. Just stick it on and it's pretty much in the correct place. I don't use a bore sighter, I bore sight via eye-ball on a distant fixed object and adjust the scope reticle to be just a little low of center (about 4 inches low at 100 yards).
Congrats on the Badger Ordnance option, it's pretty tuff stuff.