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Unread 03-19-2006, 10:10 AM
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Re: Rookie looking for great help

Buy a Savage 112BVSS in 300 win or 7mm Rem. No trigger work needed and all you need to to is have it bedded and put a brake on it if you wish (I would).

Take the money that you would have spent on a trigger job, action work etc and put it on a scope. You'll have just as accurate of a firearm (if not more accurate) and a much nicer scope. Then go out watch it shoot .5 MOA all day!!!
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Unread 03-19-2006, 02:01 PM
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DK- the 700 CDL is one of the better looking wood stocked guns for the money in my opinion. they feel a little light to me for any amount of target work; which is necessary to become proficient. i would want a heavier gun /barrel for 500-100yard shooting . for regular 0-500 shots i think the CDL IS NICE. it is my understanding the rum's (7mm and 300 )can't be loaded to touch the lands and still fit in the magazine. the rum;'s don't have lapua brass available. i would get a 7mm short or 7 rem mag or a 300 short or a 300 win.. a vais, and adjust the trigger. ron
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Unread 03-19-2006, 02:14 PM
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Re: Rookie looking for great help

I am going to be hunting whitetail the most with this rifle. I also want it to be a good rifle for larger game if I can ever go hunting for elk or bear like I want to. I still want to be able to take a long range shot if it presents itself. The 308 doesn't sound bad. I am reading about rate of twist at the moment and want to know what would be best for a light weight bullet. Should I just go with the 1-12 that comes on the 700? Should I buy a 700 action and add a custom barrel and stock?
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Unread 03-19-2006, 06:08 PM
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I am with other on the 308 option. Yes a 308 will kill elk and bears. Shot placment is key but an easy key to obtain with the 308. When you learn more about accuracy and shooting then move to a bigger gun based on a more educated guess and NOT by looking at ballistic tables. Bullets in mid air dont read ballistics tables. Ballistic tables are generated by way of manufacturers published BC's and published velocity which they get in a VERY controlled enviornment. What they dont tell you is how fast one caliber might burn out the barrel or how bad it hurts when it goes BANG! or how accurate a given round is. Start with the 308 and learn for yourself by experiance and that of others what is going to be your ultimate cartridge. Who knows a couple years from now you may still want a 7RUM or you might want a hot 6.5 or even a 300.

Good luck!

PS a 12 twist works very well in 308 win. Handles anything from 125's to 190's. 155's, 168's and 175,178,180's all work the best in the 12x. 26" 12x and the 178 AMAX under 45 grains of VARGET is very tough to beat for dear and matches. 180 ACCUBOND and you have an elk/moose/bear slayer. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
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Unread 03-19-2006, 06:14 PM
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A light weight bullet won't get you to 1000 in the 308, goes subsonic too soon. The 175 Sierra MatckKing is my choice for my rigs. I shoot 1 bullet all the time, load it to how the rifle likes it, and go. The charts are the same so it makes range work so much easier. I have 3 rifles in 308- three different twists, a savage 1-10, a custom remington 1-11.25, and a Rem LTR 1-12. All shoot the 175 SMK very well, and their fav loads are within 200 fps of each other. I have the savage primarily for shooting subsonic ammo for my quiet shooting, 1-10 will stabilize the heavy bullets required.
Your wants seem to require more power than the 308, sounds like you might upgrade to a 300wm in the future. 1-10 is a good twist for that round. Anything larger starts to get expensive and punishing without a brake. A deer pops out at 750 and I'll grab my 308, deer pops out at 1000 I'll take my 338 lapua out of the truck. That is my escalation of force since I sold my 300wm Sendero. 308-.37 cents per round, 338LM- 2.10 per round.
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Unread 03-20-2006, 12:51 AM
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Re: Rookie looking for great help

Find a Remington R5 hard to beat from what I have seen. My shoots like a DREAM.
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Unread 03-23-2006, 09:16 AM
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Re: Rookie looking for great help

I'm with Bill, BVSS 112 Savage, they come with a great trigger at 1.5 lbs, laminated stock and pillar bedded. I bought one and put a brake on it, Leupold 4.5x14 Mark 4 and am shooting to 1200 yds now and love it!
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