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Old 01-10-2013, 08:06 AM
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Re: Rifle for Africa Plains Game

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No I do not know him. The outfitter does ring a bel thou.
I am not a PH myself but have met and know a few of them. The group gets big when it gets to the non dangerous guys but the big 5 PH group is not to big. To quilify as a big 5 PH is a big chalenge and the guys that have done it earned it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:32 PM
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Jurgens, thanks for the detailed info, very helpful. Right on with what my friends are telling me. I'll probably go a bit over gunned with my 30-06 and possibly a .300 Win Mag. I use a 165 gr Accubond for the 30-06 and like the 200 gr for the .300 which I have used in a 300Wby. Lots of practice sessions between now and then. Haven't use shooting sticks much but have a set to practice shooting from.

I've spent more trigger time on the 30-06 than the other hunting guns on the rack. The 7x57 loads I worked up are with 140 gr Trophy Bonded Tip.

I do have a Precision Rifle Course in a couple of weeks which gives me a bit more practice. I've had the course booked for a while and it can't hurt.

I've no experience with the 9.3x62 but have a friend who just loves the round. Looks interesting, might be something to try in the future.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:01 PM
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Jurgens, thanks for the detailed info, very helpful. Right on with what my friends are telling me. I'll probably go a bit over gunned with my 30-06 and possibly a .300 Win Mag. I use a 165 gr Accubond for the 30-06 and like the 200 gr for the .300 which I have used in a 300Wby. Lots of practice sessions between now and then. Haven't use shooting sticks much but have a set to practice shooting from.

I've spent more trigger time on the 30-06 than the other hunting guns on the rack. The 7x57 loads I worked up are with 140 gr Trophy Bonded Tip.

I do have a Precision Rifle Course in a couple of weeks which gives me a bit more practice. I've had the course booked for a while and it can't hurt.

I've no experience with the 9.3x62 but have a friend who just loves the round. Looks interesting, might be something to try in the future.
I would strongly encourage you to work up some loads with the Hornady Interbond or Interlock for your big game gun for this trip.

Those bullets will open dependably for you but they will really hold together well punching through the toughest of critters and they have very good ballistic coefficients for shooting out to 800yds on the big guys.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:30 PM
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Re: Rifle for Africa Plains Game

WildRose, I'll give them a try; 180gr SST BT Interlocks to start.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:58 AM
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WildRose, I'll give them a try; 180gr SST BT Interlocks to start.
The SST is a different bullet. They are thin skinned and shell out pretty bad at close range even on light bodied game like White Tailed Deer.

I killed 5 WT's this year with the SST from the 300 WM and 7mm STW and to be honest there was far more meat damage than I consider acceptable on every one of them.

Now all died instantly and never even twitched since all were shot through both shoulders and the spine except one which was shot through the spine and one shoulder.

The Interlock and Interbond are much heavier jackets and hold together much better. The Interbond is a bonded bullet similar to the Accubond, and the Interlock is both a bonded bullet and has a cannelure which ensures the bullet can only open so far.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:52 AM
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Re: Rifle for Africa Plains Game

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Wildrose has a point on the SST. I did a development with the 139gr with the 7mm RemMag and tested it on an Impala. The shot was under 100m, the Impala looked at me and I placed the shot centre chest for a hart und lung shot. The animal dropped on the spot but damage was huge but penetration was minimum. A lot of people in SA use the SST but more would prefer the Interlock or Interbond as it penetrates better.
I love the barnes TSX/TTSX bullets as they have never let me down and have always performed. That said most of my hunting is well under 200m and the few animals I have taken past 300m they also did there part.
As you have chance do come and hunt where most dream ( as I would love to go hunt some of your species in the USA) I would spend a little more and make sure the bullets perform 100%.
The 9,3X62 Mauser was designed in 1905 By Otto Block from Germany as a inexpensive caliber for all game. Up until WW2 the 9,3X62 was much more popular than the .375H&H in Africa as the rifles was cheaper. On paper and field experience the 9,3X62 with a 286gr bullets does the same as a .375H&H with a 300gr bullet. What I like about the 9,3X62 is that it kicks like a .30-06, uses a standard length action, burns less powder that the .375H&H and meat damage is minimum but you have the knock down power to take game up to buffalo with ease.
It sound like you are on the right track with caliber and bullet choice as it is what I will also feel comfortable using.
Ones here take some photo’s of the hunt and share with us. The place of SA you are going is one of favorite placed. The people are amazing there and scenery is awesome.
We hunt Springbuck not to far from where you are going, so will be there in June in this year.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:16 PM
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Re: Rifle for Africa Plains Game

Jurgens/WildRose,

Thanks for all the information on calibers, bullets, etc. Based on your suggestions and talking with some reloading buddies, I picked up some Hornady Interbond bullets. 139gr - 7mm; 165gr and 180gr .308. Will work up some loads this week end.

Started looking at the paperwork for the trip. Temporary Firearms Import for SA. SAP 520, US Proof of Ownership CBP 4457 - Certificate of Registration from US Customs. The other paperwork I'm good with, letters of invitation, etc.

Looks like the trip may move into the first couple of weeks of July, work seems to be getting in the way. Business trip to Brazil in June, one of my hunting friends will be there as well, so we are still good to go.

Any suggestions on preparation, paperwork, etc. will be greatly appreciated. I will fly into Johannesburg Tambo, go through customs, then make a connecting flight south.

Still thinking about that 9.3x62; however, can't talk Charlie out of his.
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