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Old 12-21-2012, 12:03 PM
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I just read this entire thread and could not figure out why you wanted to change either rifle except to maybe clone the look of other people's rigs. I kept asking myself, "why doesn't he find out how the winmag shoots and be done with it?" If you can load 210's in the winmag you have more than you need. Remember, the ultra high bc 7mm will deliver more energy than even the 30-378 past 600-800yds. If you used the winmag on the coes at 810 then keep shooting that gun! Spend your money on practice and more hunts. You certainly don't "need" different equipment.
Just to clarify. I shoot a 300 weatherby long range and I'm always looking for something better and trying to think of reasons why another gun or different caliber makes more sense; but, the fact is that they all work very very well if we do our part. Learning better wind calls will always put you closer to your target than a different cartridge. Nothing walks around long with holes in both lungs! Even little holes!
Enjoy your future hunts.

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That pretty much sums it up. 7mm mag,300win mag both are excellent rounds! If one or the other works, then shoot it! I do like wildcatting, but as far as basics,stick with whatever you are comfortable with!! Hope this helps!!

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Old 12-22-2012, 12:51 AM
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Re: Remington vs Custom/7mm vs. 300/What would you do?

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I just read this entire thread and could not figure out why you wanted to change either rifle except to maybe clone the look of other people's rigs. I kept asking myself, "why doesn't he find out how the winmag shoots and be done with it?" If you can load 210's in the winmag you have more than you need. Remember, the ultra high bc 7mm will deliver more energy than even the 30-378 past 600-800yds. If you used the winmag on the coes at 810 then keep shooting that gun! Spend your money on practice and more hunts. You certainly don't "need" different equipment.
Just to clarify. I shoot a 300 weatherby long range and I'm always looking for something better and trying to think of reasons why another gun or different caliber makes more sense; but, the fact is that they all work very very well if we do our part. Learning better wind calls will always put you closer to your target than a different cartridge. Nothing walks around long with holes in both lungs! Even little holes!
Enjoy your future hunts.

bg
Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Maybe I confused you because the thread has kinda turned from a 7mm vs 300WinMag to a 300WinMag vs 300RUM. I stated in the original post that I had two rifles and neither was my "dream" rifle. Since neither one was my dream rifle I wanted to sell one and the scope on it and build off the other and make it how I wanted it, not "clone the look of other people's rigs." I disagree about the 7mm delivering more energy than 30cals past 600-800yards but that is another topic....and only maybe with the new 195 berger, but that has yet to be seen...so until then...

I have had time to shoot the WinMag and have been lucky enough to kill my first deer with a rifle. It is a bone stock rifle with no work done to it, and for that it did a good job, but I realize that I am wanting more performance from it. Tighter groups and better ballistics. Yes it killed at 810, but it made me realize that there is room for improvement, especially when the wind is involved. And especially if I want to stretch it out further than 810.

So here is what it comes down to. I still want to build a custom based off the rem 700 action I already have from the WinMag. So do I keep it a 300winmag or go 300 RUM? I am leaning towards the 300RUM. Either caliber I choose to go with will have an upgraded stock, trued action, 26" or 28" tube in remington sendero or varmit countour, pillar beded, brake, and new trigger. For either one I will be loading the 215 or 230 bergers for it. Now I just need to make a decision.....any thoughts are appreciated....

I will sell the 7mm Ruger and the PST on it to fund the build.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:09 AM
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Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Maybe I confused you because the thread has kinda turned from a 7mm vs 300WinMag to a 300WinMag vs 300RUM. I stated in the original post that I had two rifles and neither was my "dream" rifle. Since neither one was my dream rifle I wanted to sell one and the scope on it and build off the other and make it how I wanted it, not "clone the look of other people's rigs." I disagree about the 7mm delivering more energy than 30cals past 600-800yards but that is another topic....and only maybe with the new 195 berger, but that has yet to be seen...so until then...

I have had time to shoot the WinMag and have been lucky enough to kill my first deer with a rifle. It is a bone stock rifle with no work done to it, and for that it did a good job, but I realize that I am wanting more performance from it. Tighter groups and better ballistics. Yes it killed at 810, but it made me realize that there is room for improvement, especially when the wind is involved. And especially if I want to stretch it out further than 810.

So here is what it comes down to. I still want to build a custom based off the rem 700 action I already have from the WinMag. So do I keep it a 300winmag or go 300 RUM? I am leaning towards the 300RUM. Either caliber I choose to go with will have an upgraded stock, trued action, 26" or 28" tube in remington sendero or varmit countour, pillar beded, brake, and new trigger. For either one I will be loading the 215 or 230 bergers for it. Now I just need to make a decision.....any thoughts are appreciated....

I will sell the 7mm Ruger and the PST on it to fund the build.
Honestly I agree with the post you replied to. Keep what you have now it's a great rig, and if you ever take that "hunt of a lifetime" you absolutely need a backup gun an your current 300wm will do that in spades.

Sell the 7mm and build the Rum if you want "a little more gun" but realistically what you are gaining is only 200-300 more yards capability with it.

Also, I shoot my 300wm's without a brake and do just fine with them as well but when you step up to the rum you'll want one. The Gentry quiet break is a very good one for both muzzle flip and recoil reduction and it's very easy on the ears. Just keep in mind when shooting prone that just like shooting with no brake at all it's going to kick up a lot of crap and some of that crap will end up in your eyes especially if you are shooting into a wind.

For barrel recommendations if 1,000 is your limit and you intend on it being a carry rifle I'd go just a bit lighter than the Sendero contour, something along the lines of the light varmint contour but go ahead and go with the 28 or 30" length.

Unless you are half pack horse and half Mountain Goat anything heavier than a stock Sendero is going to be pretty tough on you in the field in rough/steep terrain to pack.

In all honesty though the 300wm with a longer barrel as I recommend above is enough gun to get the job done on elk at 1,000yds.

By the way congrats on the Coues Buck. That's quite the achievement for someone new to LR Shooting/hunting.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:51 AM
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Got to agree with Wildrose! Even though I'm a 7mm man, I have owned a couple 300wm an one 300 ultra mag. Guess my 2cts would be the 300wm also, you can do pretty much what you want an burn less powder,etc! If you want to stay with the 30cal, then the 300wm gets my vote!

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Old 12-22-2012, 09:15 PM
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Re: Remington vs Custom/7mm vs. 300/What would you do?

Why don't you read the post by Broz, he covers the abilities of the 300 WM very well and has the pictures to prove it and he takes game with his 300 WM much further than most!
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:38 AM
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Re: Remington vs Custom/7mm vs. 300/What would you do?

I would go with the RUM. I found it very easy to find very good accuracy using that case. I think it is inherently accurate and occupies a real sweet spot for the 30 cal magnum. Nothing wrong with the 300 Win for your intentions either.

Reading the thread I have a couple of thoughts:

This 12+ lb rifle build does not fit the "one rifle" mold. Keep that in mind.

Rifle builds workout best when a purpose and direction is decided and maintained.

Custom dies and forming brass are an expensive pain.

If you are going to commit to custom I think you could find a cheaper starting point. I would sell both rifles and pick up a lightly used older 7 mag bdl with a walnut stock or wait for a sendero to come up for auction. You can probably save the cost of chambering by switching rifles.

Although I don't think it is unwise to shoot the 300 you have, I support the idea of going custom.

Pay for a great shooter you won't ever regret that.

Good luck
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Re: Remington vs Custom/7mm vs. 300/What would you do?

Hey guys,
I know this thread is old but I thought I would give an update to what I decided to do. Hopefully this thread may help someone else who is just starting out like I was. I have posted a couple of links of some videos shooting this rifle as well of a description of the components.


https://www.youtube.com/user/19gaps/videos

I decide to sell my 7mm and the PST that was on it. I kept the Razor HD that was on the 300winmag but sold that rifle too. Then I took that money and built this 300 RUM.
This rifle was a budget build. It is built off of a Remington 300RUM SPS that I bought as a donor rifle. I kept the action and the bolt and then sold everything else. I bought the H-S Precision Sendero stock and bottom metal on eBay, it was brand new. The Krieger barrel was purchased at Bruno Shooters Supply and while I was over in that area I stopped by Timney Triggers and picked up a Timney 512 trigger from their warehouse. I bought the Nightforce 40moa picatinny rail from amazon. Then I took everything over to Phoenix Custom Rifles and they put their magic touch on it. I bought the badger thruster brake, PTG recoil lug, and firing pin assembly from them. They chambered and installed the barrel, trued the action, threaded the barrel and timed it for the brake, opened up the scope bases to 8-40, installed firing pin and spring, and pillar bedded the stock.

They did a great job with the build with a very quick turnaround time. And this rifle shoots WAY better than I expected! I have no regrets choosing the 300 RUM as a caliber. I can shoot it all day long and enjoy it. Nothing against the winmag or 7mm, but the 230gr Bergers going 3,048fps is something special to watch!
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