remington sendero 2 Vs. Browning a-bolt target

[kweidner]

Sorry if you are a Browning fan. My good friend is a smith and I spend more time having to shoot Brownings to see if the will group for him than any other. Customer will bring it back and claim it will not group. Many times they are right very few I have shot would go MOA. I wouldn't own one. I shot one 22-250 with the boss that was an absolute tack driver. I told the customer to buy every box of that lot of ammo he could get his hands on since he didn't reload. He did and is happy to this day. That was over 10 years ago. His problem was not cleaning properly. Once we had a lesson on how to properly clean one, he was happy. On the other side VERY few senderos shoot more than 1/2 MOA. I have a .220 swift and a 300RUM both shoot 1/2 or less any given day. mostly 1/4 if I do my part.

[freeflight]

Originally Posted by kweidner

Sorry if you are a Browning fan. My good friend is a smith and I spend more time having to shoot Brownings to see if the will group for him than any other. Customer will bring it back and claim it will not group. Many times they are right very few I have shot would go MOA. I wouldn't own one. I shot one 22-250 with the boss that was an absolute tack driver. I told the customer to buy every box of that lot of ammo he could get his hands on since he didn't reload. He did and is happy to this day. That was over 10 years ago. His problem was not cleaning properly. Once we had a lesson on how to properly clean one, he was happy. On the other side VERY few senderos shoot more than 1/2 MOA. I have a .220 swift and a 300RUM both shoot 1/2 or less any given day. mostly 1/4 if I do my part.

Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. Are you referring to 3 shots or 5 shots group for the Senderos?

[kweidner]

They are all 5 shot. I use three shot for only load testing and then 5 shot for groups. The 220 is actually a vssf but sendero is the same gun. The groups even out of the rum average .495 ctc with my hunting load. (150 barnes). My accuracy load is looking like it is going to be the 230 berger over Retumbo. I am going to confirm that tomorrow AM. The .220 is shooting 52 grain watson FB over strong load of 2700.

[freeflight]

Originally Posted by kweidner

They are all 5 shot. I use three shot for only load testing and then 5 shot for groups. The 220 is actually a vssf but sendero is the same gun. The groups even out of the rum average .495 ctc with my hunting load. (150 barnes). My accuracy load is looking like it is going to be the 230 berger over Retumbo. I am going to confirm that tomorrow AM. The .220 is shooting 52 grain watson FB over strong load of 2700.

Wow, that's impressive for a factory gun.

I read more than a few times that Remington quality is really going down these days. But I suppose it is still good for high end models. The Sendero's MSRP is $1500, comparing to a 5R of $1200 or 700P of $1000. Do you think Sendero is worth the extra money?

Thanks.
Kevin

[kweidner]

my personal opinion is yes on the sendero. I have never repeat never shot one that wouldn't walk the walk with a tweak or two from the loading dept. I have two buddys that have them as well. All we own are shooters. The smith I mentioned owns one as well and it is his hunting rig as is mine as is his son's. My father hunted with a sendero as well. We love em. I am sure others might disagree but we like em in SE Georgia. That is seven i can think of off hand.

[Lefty7mmstw]

I've had good luck with both the browning and the sendero. The browning isn't perfect for someone who wants to beat it up or mod it, but the money for the sendero is a lot for what you are getting. Rems aren't the value they were ten years ago. The last two 7mm rems I've bought have had their throats burned way too quick; under 1000 rounds.

[sendero72]

A definite thumbs up on the Sendero. I bought mine for $650 in 99' and rebarreled with a Hart for $700 in 2009'. Great value!