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Old 12-04-2013, 01:19 PM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

Thanks for the info. What book reading do you recommend?

I've been going through this video series (I'm on Part 22) but like you said this is about really long range and frankly I don't think I even have a place to practice this in the Northeast. I've definitely don't think my average hunts will even be 300-400 yards.

Also which savage are your recommending?
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:40 PM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

The NRA has two monthly publications that can help in the book learning department, American Rifleman and American Hunter, either of them are available with a membership. American Rifleman will be more focused towards rifle shooting with articles here and there on pistol and shotgun shooting, not heavy on hunting.
American Hunter will focus on hunting and the guns used to hunt, this magazine would be beneficial. When I was in grade school and junior high I absolutely hated reading, my dad would try and get me to read, even begged me to read something. I could read well, retention was a different story and of course only comes with practice. He brought home a Field and Stream magazine one day and I read every page and wouldn't keep quiet about it. He later joined the NRA and every month I'd wear the pages out on every issue of American Hunter. You coudl say I speak from experience that the booksmart on this game of shooting and hunting for me came from American Hunter.... but other magazines helped too.

Magazines like this that are general 'hunting' magazines will typically follow seasonal hunting, in the spring it will be more turkey oriented, summer maybe more towards anything that wasn't written during hunting season, fall will be more deer, upland, waterfowl. Go to Barnes N Noble some afternoon and breeze through many magazines on the shelf, find one that covers many different types of hunting that you'd like to do and subscribe.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:37 PM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

I really like the Savage Axis for the beginner. There aren't aftermarket upgrades for this rifle as it is their entry level gun. But they are shooters. I don't see much point in spending much until you know it is something you like and will stick with it. Again, 7mm Rem Mag is a great all-around cartridge, but it is not offered in the Axis line. So my choice would then be the 7mm-08. It can easily double as an intermediate/long range rig to get you down the road.

As far as book learning, I would focus on the magazines. The NRA's Rifleman/Hunter mags are OK. I also like Peterson's Hunting Journal and for western hunting: Eastman's. This site has some great reads on both shooting and hunting.

Try to find some guys at work, the local bar or neighborhood who hunt. They will be glad to give you their old mags. Spend a little time with them and they will probably be willing to take you hunting. From there, your contacts will grow to where you will be invited to ranges that have extended shooting capabilities. Use this site to find who lives in the area. Send them a PM. Most will be happy to take someone new under their wing.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:36 AM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

thanks gents
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:45 PM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

Do they allow rifle in hunting in NJ? Some highly populated states like IL and IN do not. If not, it sounds like the only reason you would need a rifle would be for recreational/competitive shooting or hunting out of state. I'm originally from PA BTW.

A lot of the members here can offer you good advice but if you are only looking into short range shooting and hunting you might consider another site like 24 hr campfire as this is a more specialized site dealing with precision long range equipment and techniques and that's the type of advise you get, i.e. the Long Range youtube series you were pointed to which is not what you need. Although you can learn some good basic marksmanship techniques from it. There are also some good videos on this site for marksmanship basics.

That said, for entry level basic short range deer hunting I would recommend a good basic bolt action rifle like a Weatherby Vanguard S2 or Winchester M70.

Chamberings to consider would be 25-06, 260 Rem, 270 Win, 7mm-08, 308 Win, and 30-06. You really don't need anything larger than any of those cartridges for what you're looking for. For all around practicality, the 308 Win is probably the best choice.

As mentioned, try to get together with someone you know who knows something about guns, marksmanship and hunting which will be a big help for you.

Hope that helps and welcome to the fun world of guns!
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:44 PM
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Absolutely not allowed to hunt with rifles in NJ. However I want to gain as much knowledge as I can. It seems to me that learning long range would making learning shorter ranges easier. Probably information overload. I'd love to eventually get out West to hunt as well. I'm happy to check out other resources including 24hourcampfire but frankly I have a lot of respect for the guys on this forum so I think there is still a lot to learn here.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:57 AM
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Re: The real basics... new to guns how to learn

Well then, welcome to LRH. You might catch the Long Range bug if you hang out enough.
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