Ok, for a rifle I would look at the savage rifles, I have had a few and they all shot well. There fit and finish is not great but we care about performance more than looks. I dont know if I got a fluke or what, but I bought a stevens 200 in a 243 and it is accurate enough with handloads that I would harvest white tails up to 500yrds then past that I want something with more horsies. I've always had good luck with remmies, getting them to shoot sub moa with the exception of an lss in a 300rum. I dont know what you can get on the old senderos around where you live or if you can even find one but they shoot awesome for a factory rifle.
For cartridge, a 308 is fine for 6-700 yrds on deer. wait, before anybody starts yelling that it can be used further, remember that DoubleGobble is new to the game. No slam to DoubleGobble. I was in the same situation not to many years ago. Along with the 308, the 25-06, 7-08, 243, 260, 30-06 and any of your magnums will do. Tell you the truth, the .280 is an awesome deer cartridge but it has to be accurate. I normally say 1moa is fine to 600yrds.
I dont know who ever came up with the imaganary word of "Over Gunned"
Last edited by screech; 11-05-2007 at 09:54 PM.