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Old 11-05-2007, 10:55 AM
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Newbie needs advice....

Hello fellas... I have been reading alot of different posts on this forum and finally decided to post. I have the longdistance bug! This was mainly caused by another forum member Eddybo which brought me to my first F class shoot. Since then I have been ruined.

Anyway, I am thinking about buying a new rifle for long range shooting. What type of rifle would you buy for under $1000 for a beginner. I don't have reloading equipment so I will be using factory ammo right now. Hopefully I will be reloading in a few years.

Right now I shoot a Ruger MKII .280 with 3-9x40 Nikon Buckmaster. I can't decide if I am going to buy new gun or upgrade my Ruger with Trigger and better optics.

I have looked at the Savage 12FVSS in 308 and 300wsm and they look good also. I just wanted to know yals opinions on beginner long range guns for under $1000 and caliber of choice. Thanks,

DoubleG
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:37 PM
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First we need to know what we are after with it. Targets, Big game, the range at which you want to shoot, what type of big game, is 1k$ not including optics?

Also, how well does your .280 shoot?
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:22 PM
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Oops... I will be hunting deer with it and target shooting. I don't plan to hunt elk or any real big game just whitetails. Yes the $1k is total with optics. I read about the SS 10x or 20x for $300 or the Bushnell 3200 10x for $175 sounds fine to me.

I have been looking at the Savage FVSS 308 and 300wsm.... Since I don't reload (yet) the 308 might be best since there is a wide variety of ammo and it is cheaper so I can shoot more... I really haven't research them enough just yet so I am looking for some more ideas.

I think I can shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the 280 if I get a trigger job. I think the trigger is about 7-8 lbs right now (factory trigger). My groups were much larger than this last weekend. My best group last weekend was a 4 inch group at 250 yards which aint that great but okay I guess.

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:48 PM
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Ok, for a rifle I would look at the savage rifles, I have had a few and they all shot well. There fit and finish is not great but we care about performance more than looks. I dont know if I got a fluke or what, but I bought a stevens 200 in a 243 and it is accurate enough with handloads that I would harvest white tails up to 500yrds then past that I want something with more horsies. I've always had good luck with remmies, getting them to shoot sub moa with the exception of an lss in a 300rum. I dont know what you can get on the old senderos around where you live or if you can even find one but they shoot awesome for a factory rifle.

For cartridge, a 308 is fine for 6-700 yrds on deer. wait, before anybody starts yelling that it can be used further, remember that DoubleGobble is new to the game. No slam to DoubleGobble. I was in the same situation not to many years ago. Along with the 308, the 25-06, 7-08, 243, 260, 30-06 and any of your magnums will do. Tell you the truth, the .280 is an awesome deer cartridge but it has to be accurate. I normally say 1moa is fine to 600yrds.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:10 PM
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maybe you could re-barrel and trigger job, or you could get reloading equipment instead. If it shoots 1moa @ 100 with factory ammo you should be able to reduce that to 1/2 with handloads. But you have to be careful with that bug too, it will get you everytime.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:20 PM
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+1 MikeBob

Check the bedding on the .280, lighten the trigger and get some reloading gear. Spend 1/2 the money and have an investment that will save you money as long as you shoot.

The 280 is a great round. If you decide to upgrade, it might be as easy as having that barrel improved to a 280AI, which is an awesome round.

I'd first try to wring every ounce of accuracy out of the 280 and learn a lot in the process. If the 280 ends up being a dud, you could use it as collateral on the next one.

Regardless, its tough to do anything long range without reloading.

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Old 11-05-2007, 10:31 PM
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If you decided to reload you can find a wealth of info on here to get you started, even buy the equipment. When i started in long range the first thing I did was learn how to reload, bed my rifle. I am really glad I started with my old gun first as I would have been really pissed screwing up my new one. Just reloading and bedding alone I found my older guns to be way more accurate than shooting factory ammo.
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