All good suggestions for ya. I know what you mean about that Ruger UltraLight. I bought my youngest son one chambered in .260 and I've never had or seen a rifle kick and beller so much! Weren't accurate for crap, factory or handloads. Both he and I hated it. I traded it for a Rem 700 LSS Mtn Rifle in .260 and what a lovely little rifle that is.
I've always wanted a 6BR for close work on deer. The ones that I have seen are amazingly accurate. You'd probably have to get a fast twist barrel (1-8") and shoot 100+ gn bullets to get the needed thump out to 500yds. Savage has their Model 12 Long Range Precision Varminter in this calibler and is also available in .22-250 with a fast twist(1-9"). This would let you stabilize the 75gn Swift Scirocco. That bullet was made for deer sized game.
For 500yds and less you can stay below the 7mm's and not have problems as long as you did your part and used the right bullets. I'd try to get a rifle with a varmint profile barrel to keep recoil down. JohnnyK.
My first rifle was a 243... I love the cartridge. The first deer I ever shot was with that rifle, a Rem BDL. I was going for a head shot on a young buck directly below me form my tree stand. Ididn't compensate for the line of site and bore difference and shot it through the jaw and neck. I tracked it and another guy joined the track and gut shot it with a 218 Bee. The deer ran off again and we found it again, and I put one through the boiler room at 10 yds. The deer ran off again into a residential neighborhood and was lost.
The 243 can kill, but not my first choice for anything bigger than a coyote. For 100+ lb deer, my min cal would be a .277 with a good performing bullet. Lesser cals will do the job, but no guarantees.
I used to have what I now call a recoil fobia ...... i.e. always concentrating on recoil of various guns. I have learned you can adjust to reasonable amounts of recoil. You have to shoot a good bit and while doing it start with light loads or a smaller caliber and work your way up to the heavier loads and larger guns. You must make sure the gun fits you, get a little heavier gun, use a shoulder pad while practicing, use good hearing protection to eleminate the noise, install a good recoil pad on your gun and practice a lot. The more you practice the better. Noise intimidates most people and lighter guns just kick more ( I do not want any rifle that weighs less than 7.5 pounds and I prefer 7.75 to 8.75 depending on the caliber). The design on some guns just lend them to greater recoil. A good example is a 30-30 lever action. They just kick like the devil for the limited performance they produce. A bolt action 243 doesn't kick as much as a 30-30 lever acton and it produces more foot pounds of energy, is flatter shooting and has much longer range. You can greatly improve your recoil sensitivity if you work at it.
Last edited by Alfred Crouch; 06-23-2009 at 10:59 AM.
Getting the snot beat out of yourself is no way to go. I shot a Ruger ultra light in a 243 and it was the most worthless, kicking rifle I have ever witnessed.
The 243 is real nice in a better rifle, it seems the 25's don't have the best BC bullets, I'm trying to get out there with a 250AI and the bullets seem to hold things up a bit. I got a 270WSM this year and it recoils nice its running 12 lbs, it had some punch but I put it in a B&C Medalist and it completelly changed the recoil. The stock design has alot to do with the felt recoil I learned.
Hands down, 260 remington. Use a short action put a 24-25" number 6 contour barrel on that puppy. Stock it with anything other than a fat grip extra wide for-end. You will have one sweet little long range deer slayer. No need for a brake just get a good pad. Launch 140 grain bullets, be happy.
good stuff in here alright, pretty much put the recoil down to the rifle.
Think I will get a 260Rem with a varmit barrel.
In the mean time I will use my 22-250 as much as possible with lots of range shooting.
I think you have the right idea. NOW ... good luck finding a 260. I am having one built. The gunsmith says it should be finished this week. The factories have dropped them from their listings and I really don't understand why. They seem to have a good following. I am anxious to get mine...... like a little kid waiting for the first red wagon at Christmas......EXCITED!!