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Old 07-08-2011, 01:55 PM
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new set up, can i get thoughts?

hello all...i'm getting into long-range shooting/hunting for the first time (hunted for a few years but never shot anything beyond 200 yards). I also am looking for a rifle of my own so i don't have to borrow. I'm thinking i may be leaning toward a Remington 700 CDL in 7mm-08 with a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 BDC. since i'm new at the long range stuff and i'm on a more restricted budget, i figured this is probably one of the best ways to spend my money. can i get your opinions on this? i can shoot (Air Force-qualified "expert" and i've made a couple impressive-yet entirely lucky to be truthful-shots on deer), but my experience and knowledge with long-range is limited at best. i'm definitely trying to glean as much knowledge from this site as i can and going to put it to practice when i get back from the desert! thanks for your help!

micah

PS: i live in Rapid City, SD. since BH Ammo is right there and world renowned, i figured i'd try their ammunition since i don't reload (i want to get into though but i don't know where to start). any other ammunition suggestions? Thanks
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Old 07-10-2011, 12:57 AM
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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

7-08 is definitely a good round. If you do not reload, honestly, I would lean towards a 308. The 308 has some of the best "factory" type ammunition that a person can lay hands onto. I do not think there is another round out that has half the *GREAT* off the shelf choices. With the right ammo a 308 can either be a pussy cat, or a 500++ yard hunting hammer. As for match type shooting, a well set up 308 will do 1k easy enough.

Nikon makes good scopes for sure. Hope I don't catch hell...but in all honesty I would not go with a BDC. I would go with a Mil Dot scope, and learn to use the mil reticle. Once you figure out a mil reticle, it makes life a lot easier pretty much no matter what you are shooting at.

Nikon 4-16x42 Monarch Riflescope

I would go with this model right here. Having Parallax adjustment for longer range shooting can be fairly important. The 4x setting is decent for when you expect game to be up close and a fast shot is required, yet you still have 16x for longer range, like 1k.

Many years ago, I was a real Remmy fan. The last decade or so, Remmy has been pretty hit or miss on getting a good shooter out of the box. Hate to tell you that, but good shooting factory sticks can be real hit or miss in general.

I have had a few people say that the new Made in South Carolina Winchesters are shooting real well. They are made by FN, who also makes FN branded rifles using the same action. The triggers are pretty decent these days too.

Some folks say the new Savage rifles are real accurate, I have not really played with the Accu-Stock models however. I have heard some people cuss the accu-stock, and others proclaim it to be the 2nd coming. I do like their trigger.

What ever you decide on, if it ends up being a 308 for LR hunting, I would *NOT* get a tube longer than 20" unless you plan on really hammering out past 800 yards on a regular basis. Even then if you get lucky and get a Good Tube, 1k is still doable.

I will say this.... RELOADING WISE .... winchester brass, winchester LR primers, Berger 185gr Hunting VLD, and Alliant 2000MR powder...and you can hammer out pretty close to 700 yards with adequate retained energy and velocity.... brutal ...in 308

Good shooting,
Gary
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:23 AM
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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

thank you for the reply. yesterday i decided that i think i'd rather go 7mm rem mag just because rem mag is easier to buy than -08 and it has a slightly better ballistics calculation (at least according to some sources). i have read that Remington has declined in their out of the box accuracy/dependability, but it's hit or miss. i will definitely take your advice on not getting the BDC. i have been looking at Mil/MOA reticles and i like what i see with those and how those would reall help give me a solid foundation on shooting longer range than a BDC would. as for reloading, i have NO IDEA how to do it or where to get started. i want to get in to reloading though. as for going .308 vs 7mm, to be honest, on paper 7mm seems like the better choice ballistically. with that said, i am deployed so i won't be able to get my hands on any rifles for 3 more weeks. so i have no way of knowing if a Rem 700 will even fit me and all those other important factors that go in to purchasing the "right rifle". i will definitely keep my mind open about that though and i thank you for your insight! can you point me in the right direction on learning how to reload?
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:21 AM
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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

The 7mm RM is a great cartridge, and the ballistics are WAY better than 7-08 or 308. H1000 powder is one of THE go to powders of choice in the 7mm RM. The Hornady 162gr Amax is an awesome hunting bullet for long range, and the Berger 180s are real nice too.

Lee "Modern Reloading 2nd Edition" Reloading Manual - MidwayUSA

This is one of the best books on reloading I have ever had the pleasure to own. I would start here, and read his chapters on getting started in reloading. Never fear asking for a bit of help here in the forums, this place is great about helping people just getting started out.

Have a good one,
Gary
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:20 AM
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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

Thank you Gary for the info! i really appreciate it! I'm definitely going to look at getting that book too. Can't wait to get started!
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:05 AM
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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

Hi,i would check out the savage longrange hunter series,all the savage rifles i have shot have been very accurate and there is a great range of calibers to choose from like 6.5 creedmoor,260rem,6.5-284,308win,300wsm,7mmRM,300WM and 338LM.

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Re: new set up, can i get thoughts?

I don't think you will be dissapointed in 7mm
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