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Old 08-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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Nobody is saying practicing is a waste of time. i was just saying after so long at the range shooting your likely to be doing more harm then good.
Yes shooting at long ranges is hunting, however what I consider actually hunting is when their is more to consider then just the gun, the wind, the bullet drop, and yourself. At those ranges you really dont have to worry about the animal, it pretty much just like shooting a paper target. They wont be effected by you really at all, wont smell you, maybe sight but chances are it wont bother them, you dont need noise discipline, no point in camo. Hell you could just drive a wheeler till you see something, get off and shoot it, then get back on and go get it and then your done for the day! I personally like the hunt, the stalk, the every little move counts, the getting into the right spot without letting the animal see, smell, or hear you! I Like getting as close as possible to put the best shot possible on the animal to give it a clean kill. BUT!!!! if i cant get close without spooking the animal i am willing to take a long range shot that im comfortable with. My long range shot is not the same as all the experts on here but im on here to expand my knowledge so i can be as accurate as possible while taking shots even if its not out to y'alls 1000+yds.
I am not trying to offend anyone on here and i mean no disrespect!!! I think its AWESOME that you shoot at these distances and accomplish them!!! I hope to someday be able to do that at a range! but for now ill keep it under the 750 mark.
That is what most longrange hunters do also, they try to get close but if they can't then if they are capable of a 1k shot on game they can take it. On a recent episode of EOL tv they were hunting antelope and a 800 yards shot presented itself, but they knew they could get closer so they passed on the shot and tried to get closer, when they got to where they wanted to shoot (about 400 yds), the buck disappeared. I felt they did a great job of representing longrange hunters.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:52 PM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

Savage,

Now that most everyone has had their say and you have been able to reclarify your statements.

Very very very few rifles/shooters will maintain or even obtain the level of accuracy at 750 yards, with factory ammunition, that is needed to effective and humanely take big game. Let alone a critter that may have a smaller vitals area.

The odds of getting a rifle/shooter and factory ammunition combination to shoot well enough at that distance are pretty slim. But, there are those that can.

The 500 yards, you are correctly proficient, at is on the outer limits of factory ammunition (my opinion). To stretch it out to 750, I personally don't see you or most others (including myself) using factory ammunition and getting it done.

Therefore, reloading will very likely be the next step in pushing your range out to 750 yards.

As far as caliber goes. There is plenty of information to be had about the ballistics of different calibers capable of reaching out to your prescribed distance.

Personally, I get just about as much pleasure from producing my own "precision" ammunition as I do out of shooting it, and filling my tags.

Yes, there are costs involved. But, it is all part of the game.

Nice thing is, you get to make your own choices.

Good luck!
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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Savage,

Now that most everyone has had their say and you have been able to reclarify your statements.

Very very very few rifles/shooters will maintain or even obtain the level of accuracy at 750 yards, with factory ammunition, that is needed to effective and humanely take big game. Let alone a critter that may have a smaller vitals area.

The odds of getting a rifle/shooter and factory ammunition combination to shoot well enough at that distance are pretty slim. But, there are those that can.

The 500 yards, you are correctly proficient, at is on the outer limits of factory ammunition (my opinion). To stretch it out to 750, I personally don't see you or most others (including myself) using factory ammunition and getting it done.

Therefore, reloading will very likely be the next step in pushing your range out to 750 yards.

As far as caliber goes. There is plenty of information to be had about the ballistics of different calibers capable of reaching out to your prescribed distance.

Personally, I get just about as much pleasure from producing my own "precision" ammunition as I do out of shooting it, and filling my tags.

Yes, there are costs involved. But, it is all part of the game.

Nice thing is, you get to make your own choices.

Good luck!
JackinSD this is the best advise i have gotten!! Thank you!

I wont shoot past 500yds with my 7mm-08 because the bullet drops between 60-70" or somethin like that. Can i get past that with a different caliber rifle or do i need to start reloding first?

I guess what my ultimate question is, if i reload can i make a round that will take down moose, caribou, elk, bear, and sheep at a good distance? or do i need to upgrade to something along the lines of a 300 win mag to cover that range of animals? Im positive my 7mm-08 will do fine with the sheep, caribou, and bear(well black bear anyways), But what about moose and elk?
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:43 PM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

If I was you, I would settle on a cartridge that would maintain the energy and velocity needed at the distance I hoped to shoot and reload for it. Reloading, as I see it, is a must not a maybe for that distance.

There are others that have suggested the 300 win mag. and they are accomplished shooters at that range and much further. They have the experience, and the knowledge. So, I would not attempt to challenge them.

So, yes on reloading being a must no matter what caliber you eventually decide upon. Realize that not matter what cartridge you go with, they will all drop quite a bit as distance increases. I'm sure you know that.

The right caliber for moose or elk at 750 yards? Beyond my knowledge and expertise.

But, plenty of information from some of the guys that have already responded to this thread.

Do a little searching and you will find the answers. I have learned more on this site than I thought I had left to learn. And as we can see, I have alot to learn yet.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:02 AM
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If I was you, I would settle on a cartridge that would maintain the energy and velocity needed at the distance I hoped to shoot and reload for it. Reloading, as I see it, is a must not a maybe for that distance.

There are others that have suggested the 300 win mag. and they are accomplished shooters at that range and much further. They have the experience, and the knowledge. So, I would not attempt to challenge them.

So, yes on reloading being a must no matter what caliber you eventually decide upon. Realize that not matter what cartridge you go with, they will all drop quite a bit as distance increases. I'm sure you know that.

The right caliber for moose or elk at 750 yards? Beyond my knowledge and expertise.

But, plenty of information from some of the guys that have already responded to this thread.

Do a little searching and you will find the answers. I have learned more on this site than I thought I had left to learn. And as we can see, I have alot to learn yet.
Thank You!

So does anyone know the best caliber that will hold its energy and velocity out to 750yds that will perform best on moose and elk?
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:18 AM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

7MM, 300 and 338 WIN MAGS
7STW, 8MM REM MAG
7MM, 300, 338 ULTRA MAGS
7MM and up WEATHERBY MAGS
338 Lapua
(short list of factory ammo offerings, there are others)

With the right loads, they are ALL capable in terms of ENERGY, to cleanly harvest Elk/Moose at 750 yards. The choice of platform and caliber is in your hands now. There is NO BEST caliber! Just personal preference combined with practice and experience. Good Luck! Just give the animals and your fellow sportsmen enough respect to make yourself proficient before you go off wounding anything.

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