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Old 08-19-2012, 12:16 PM
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if you cant afford to handload, the best thing for you to do is to buy something that you can afford to shoot. I dont think that the 300 win fit the "economical" bill. Factory rounds for the Ultra mags are crazy expensive.
Id say shoot the ole' 7-08 until you can afford to reload, then get a mag. When you do make that jump, the 300 win is a great one, as well as the 7 Rem mag.

A quality reloading set up is going to make you a better shooter and give you the rounds down range to become more confident. I know that with the cost of ammo I wouldnt shoot more than 100 rounds a year.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:19 PM
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if you cant afford to handload, the best thing for you to do is to buy something that you can afford to shoot. I dont think that the 300 win fit the "economical" bill. Factory rounds for the Ultra mags are crazy expensive.
Id say shoot the ole' 7-08 until you can afford to reload, then get a mag. When you do make that jump, the 300 win is a great one, as well as the 7 Rem mag.

A quality reloading set up is going to make you a better shooter and give you the rounds down range to become more confident. I know that with the cost of ammo I wouldnt shoot more than 100 rounds a year.

Its not so much that i cant afford ammo but i dont like the thought of buying a reloading setup that will cost me just as much as a rifle will! Someday i will, but not today. Guns are made to kill, i can only spend so much time shooting the same holes in some paper for so long. I like using the rifle for what is intended for, and dumping ammo through it is a waste after a certain point.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:11 PM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

Another vote for the 300 WM.
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:33 PM
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Its not so much that i cant afford ammo but i dont like the thought of buying a reloading setup that will cost me just as much as a rifle will! Someday i will, but not today. Guns are made to kill, i can only spend so much time shooting the same holes in some paper for so long. I like using the rifle for what is intended for, and dumping ammo through it is a waste after a certain point.
For 1000 yard shooting you better plan on dumping allot of ammo threw it. Shooting at these distances is a skill that requires allot of learning threw practice. No matter what you buy or in what caliber you will shoot a lot of paper before you can do it well. You may OR MAY NOT EVER produce expectable 1000 yard accuracy without reloading. 1000 yard scope, 1000 yard rangefinder, finding a good 1000 yard ammo and from the factory to boot. Hell the cost of a rifle is the least of the expenses involved.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:38 AM
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I think shooting at game at 1000yds aint considered huntin!!! Shooting at that range takes all the fun and anticipation out of it, getting as close as you can to the animal is the best part of it!
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:38 AM
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Alright Savage,
"im looking for something that will reach out and touch whatever it is im hunting."

Tell us your current, comfortable max range and your new desired max range. Then you can be prescribed a caliber and platform that suits your needs. How do you handle recoil? At my experience level, I will tell you, I shoot my 280AI far better at long range than I do my 300RUM. The capability of the rifle lays in the guy behind it. I rescind my previous posting advice now that I have more details.

Experience, Confidence and Equipment are three key components in establishing YOUR max range. With my experience level, I'm only confident out to 700 yards on big game if conditions are perfect. More than average, but FAR LESS than a lot of other shooters on this forum. My rifles have the capability to effectively take game at much farther range, but I as a shooter don't, yet.

You might find the 30-06 will suit you best. For a hunter who will be shooting factory ammo, maybe doesn't have the experience with a heavy recoiling magnum, doesn't want to spend excessive time at the range "dumping ammo" and doesn't want to hunt elk out to 1k. 30-06 ammo is readily available, with lots of options to find out what your rifle likes and it's a lot cheaper than MAG ammo. And just because it doesn't say MAGNUM in the name doesn't mean it isn't capable of humanly taking big game at extended ranges in the hands of a qualified marksman.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:50 AM
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Alright Savage,
"im looking for something that will reach out and touch whatever it is im hunting."

Tell us your current, comfortable max range and your new desired max range. Then you can be prescribed a caliber and platform that suits your needs. How do you handle recoil? At my experience level, I will tell you, I shoot my 280AI far better at long range than I do my 300RUM. The capability of the rifle lays in the guy behind it. I rescind my previous posting advice now that I have more details.

Experience, Confidence and Equipment are three key components in establishing YOUR max range. With my experience level, I'm only confident out to 700 yards on big game if conditions are perfect. More than average, but FAR LESS than a lot of other shooters on this forum. My rifles have the capability to effectively take game at much farther range, but I as a shooter don't, yet.

You might find the 30-06 will suit you best. For a hunter who will be shooting factory ammo, maybe doesn't have the experience with a heavy recoiling magnum, doesn't want to spend excessive time at the range "dumping ammo" and doesn't want to hunt elk out to 1k. 30-06 ammo is readily available, with lots of options to find out what your rifle likes and it's a lot cheaper than MAG ammo. And just because it doesn't say MAGNUM in the name doesn't mean it isn't capable of humanly taking big game at extended ranges in the hands of a qualified marksman.

im confident in shooting up to 500yds with my 7mm-08. After that the bullet is dropping extremely fast! And with the 7mm-08 the bullets energy drops to around 1300fps@500yds and im not quite sure that would be enough for a moose.

As far as recoil goes, the 7mm-08 can kick like crazy if your not expecting it but is easily manageable. recoil is not much of an issue.

I would like to be able to shoot out to 750yds eventually after enough practice and trigger time to be comfortable with the rifle and knowledgeable about how the rounds will fly at that range. I dont necessarily want to shoot at that range all the time but be proficient enough to be able to if i have to.

And the 30-06, is that much of a difference from my 7mm-08? I want to have enough gun that i can work my way up through and advance myself with for awhile and get to the longer ranges with.

Reloading will come someday. Its not that i cant afford it or that im not experienced enough to shoot at long ranges. I cant justify to myself(or my wife) to spend that much money on one to make my own bullets when i can buy rounds that will preform at the distance i shoot. Like i said, maybe someday when i get into the whole long range shooting like the pros on here. But for now factory bullets that perform to what i need will work just fine!
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