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Old 08-19-2012, 04:24 AM
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New rifle caliber Help!

Im new on here so hopefully this works. Im lookin for a new rifle and im not sure what caliber to get. I own a couple rifles but im looking for something that will reach out and touch whatever it is im hunting. I want a caliber that is fast and flat shooting. Something that i wont have to to arch too much and will put down moose, sheep, bear, caribou, and whitetail. I already own a .243, .30-30, and a 7mm-08. Ive been reading alot and from what ive read is that .300 win mag is a very good cal that would meet the criteria. Does anyone have any thoughts on this or better suggestions?
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:30 AM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

300 WIN MAG is a great all around cartridge. Seeing your current list, MY personal recommendation would be a 338 WIN MAG. You have the small and mid bores covered. Add some knock down power to the list. If you want over 600 yards, long range, go 300RUM or 338RUM.
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The 300 Winmag is an excellent choice for the variety of game you describe. Also, depending on whether you reload or not, a wide variety of ammo is readily available.
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:46 AM
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I do not reload. Maybe someday when i have the time and then money i will try to get into it. Is there alot of advantages to reloading versus buying factory rounds? And im just curious, people say they are able to shoot over 1000yds w/ the 300 win mag, what is the realistic max effective range for one? 1000yds seems to be a little ridiculous to me.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:56 AM
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If you don't reload, and your shooting at moderate ranges, the 300 Win Mag is a good choice, as would be other 300 magnum variants such as the 300 WSM, or 300 Weatherby, etc. Be assured that the 300 Win Mag can be used at 1000 yards, but it requires hand loading the proper bullets, and the rifle, skills, practice, and knowledge to achieve it.
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:23 AM
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Re: New rifle caliber Help!

+1 with greyfox.

As far as understanding the "numbers" at distance, Maybe this will help shed some light;

First, google JBM Ballistics calculator
Then plug these numbers into thier appropriate places, & run the numbers.

300 Win (.308 cal)
200 gr Accubond
.588 B.C.
2900 fps muzzle velocity

300 Win (.308 cal)
180 Accubond
.505 B.C.
3100 fps muzzle velocity

Now, keep in mind that the commonly excepted numbers you want to have for Elk size game would be 1500 ft lbs of energy, & 1800 fps for propper bullet expansion. For Deer, the required energy drops to around 1000 ft lbs.

*note*
There are bullets with a higher B.C. & higher Sectional Density (SD) that have much softer construction, which in turn requires a much lower velocity to properly expand.
With those High B.C. & High S.D. bullets 1K on Elk size critters is attainable.
Sectional Density plays a big roll. "Energy" is this kinda mythical thing that we cal put a number on, & calculate, but a high S.D. bullet doesn't need "1500 ft lbs of Energy" to get the job done.

Now keep in mind that there is no perfect bullet. There are close range bullets, mid range bullets, & Long range bullets.
Don't load a Partition for Elk at 1k, & don't Load a fragile bullet for big game at close range.

I personally prefer the Accubond for my style of hunting which is 0-800+ on Deer, Elk, & Bear. If I wanted a 0-450+ bullet it'd be a Partition, if I wanted LONG range Only, it'd be a Berger.
I find Accubonds usefull for a broad range, when used within thier propper limitations, just like any other bullet. Use it within its realistic limitations, & you'll be thrilled. Push the envelope too far & you'll be disgusted.

So ya, in a long winded, round about way, the 300 Win can be a legitimate 1k Elk whacker.
There are better cartriges for Elk at 1k & beyond, but if you opperate within the propper limmit of what your cartrige, & bullet combo is capable of, it's an Awesome cartrige.

If I could have only 1 cartrige for all of North America it'd be a 300 mag of some sort. Gopher to Griz, you got er covered.

338 Win mag is another perfect allround North American hunting cartrige. It's in my top 3 favorites of all time.
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The 300 ultra mag would be my pick. I have one in a sendero and it is a hammer. I have been shooting this caliber since 1999 and have shot everything from 168 to 220 grain bulets. I have shot factory ammo, nosler, swift, and Sierra bullets. Currently shooting the 220 SMK with the best results. There is a nice one for sale in the classifieds RBros 300 ultra mag.
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