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Old 09-27-2007, 08:27 PM
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With the right bullets the 308 will kill deer at 1000yds. I personaly woulden't use anything but the most fragile bullets like the178gr A-max and 168gr and up Bergers with the meplats trimmed nice and flat.

IS the 308 the best choice for shooting deer at 1000yds , no but it will do it.

If old mossy horns walked out in a bean field and their was no way I could close the gap and all the conditions were right then I woulden't hesitate shooting him but If the wind were blowing a bit or he was moving a bit more than feeding then I would pass.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:18 PM
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why not go with 300 mag and just load down a bit. still use heavy bullets to reach out there a ways. When comfortable load up for the long haul. My 300 mag with a muzzle brake and 190 bergers kicks about the same as my 243. My 12 year old son shoots it at targets without any problems.
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IS the 308 the best choice for shooting deer at 1000yds , no but it will do it.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:00 AM
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Well!!!

I shoot the .308 and I'm not comfortable shooting over 750 to 800 yards my load goes subsonic at about 850 if not a tad sooner.

I've shot targets at 1000 and the groups were twice moa size. Not really the kind of accuracy one looks for when hunting.

Now it's a different deal at 800 yards I can keep them near moa. So in my opinion a .308 is a great cartridge but one must know it's limitations. Unless your load is a lot hotter than mine it won't do 1000 yards very well.

I believe the US armed forces consider 800 yards about max for the cartridge also.

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Old 09-28-2007, 11:08 AM
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Chuck , what bullets are you shooting? I assume that your using 168's if they are going subsonic before 1000yds ,thats the main reason I like the 175gr and they tend to shoot a little better than the 168's out of my guns. , either that or you have a pretty low muzzel velocity

Try some higher BC bullets like the Berger VLD's or heavier SMK's and A-max's. Shooting the 208gr A-max or 210 Berger out at 2400-2500fps will get you well past 1000yds
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:55 PM
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Huntinfool,
my friend, it's my understanding that the 308 Winch. has many many many victories under its belt at 1000 yards, even the 30-06 envies the accuracy of the 308 Winch. at 1K...
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Eaglet, punching paper is one thing...

The question was;

Is this caliber capeable of taking game out to (or close to) 1000 yards (834 meters), accurately and humanely?

The .308 has somewhere around 500 foot/pounds or less of energy left at 1000 yards, depending on which projectile you are using, which is just not enough energy to humanely do the job, at least in my book.

For targets, and for learning, it is superb, and with all the available data, perhaps THE best caliber for learning.

But for taking game at 1000 yards, I just don't feel it is enough tool.

Bill
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