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Old 02-23-2012, 10:34 PM
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Re: New gun/what caliber

After having read your post more than once, I would honestly say Think .277 and think Berger 170 grain Hybrid EOL hunting bullets....

270 AI: hey it was never really all that popular, but with this upcoming bullet and new powders it looks pretty good!

You could wildcat the 300 Ruger Compact Magnum to 270... That actually looks pretty good on paper, and it should feed very well.

I am not a 270 nut, I am a long range shooting enthusiast.

There is also the 7mm 195 grain Berger Hybrid EOL hunting bullet, but I think that might get into enough recoil to make you stop and consider after about 60 rounds or so... looks awesome though.

I am a 6.5 NUT!! But in all honestly for a LONG range elk type hunter I have to admit it may not quite Haul-The-Mail so to speak. Now out to about 500 it is a great caliber! Maybe not for elk, but then again...it might depend on how fast you get that pill moving down range too...

Another 270 option would certainly have to be the 270 WSM. This little jewel should get things moving quite well, especially if you make it on either an Intermediate length action or a long action. I would hesitate to make it on a short action with a 170 grain bullet.

Have a good one sir,
Gary

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Old 03-09-2012, 08:53 PM
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Have you considered a 7mm-08 as a long range deer gun, but then continuing to use your old 300 wm when you go elk hunting?
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:36 AM
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For sure stay with what you have and get a break put on. I have one on my 300 and there is zilch for recoil. Loud as hell. But you could shoot it all day.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:20 PM
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Hi Diriel,

I am playing with two or three ideas right now. I took a 300 RCM, and ran it through my Boer 8mm Mag. forming die. This one only puts taper into the basic 375 Ruger cases. It equals the taper in the 8 x 68 S Schulers and the 458 American. My goal is to end up with a 1.75" long case in 270. It will look a lot like the old 6.5mm x 50 R Japanese. It will be fitted into a Black Hole magnum lefty upper. I think I'll use the banana magazine used in the AK adaption. With solid gilding metal bullets, and a slow twist, I can make it sing. With a quick twist, the bullets will have to be seated pretty deep, and that will cost plenty. But this puppy should chamber out of a M-98 Mauser, which in Rem6mmBR, is only a single shot, now.

Last month I dropped three antelope in the Karoo, of the RSA, with a left handed Ruger MKII, and Federal 270 Win. ammo using 110 gr. Barnes. I only recovered one bullet, driven some eight inches into the spine of a fast departing Springbok, and that one sample still weighed 104 grains. I think the rest was just the delrin tip. One way or another, I managed to kill them clean and not damage their front shoulders, forward, or mess up the meat. My Blesbok and Springbok went SCI bronze, and a silver for the smallest species, a Steinbuck. So, this little 270 idea, based on a shortened RCM case, should be death on wheels, in a AR-15, with a banana magazine.

But it could be a re-barrel prospect in just about any old military rifle action. This is what makes it so interesting to me. This idea is predicated on using solid gilding metal bullets. Andy Baker of Black Hole thinks a 100 gr. spitzer will be about the shortest bullet shank which will be accurate in the AR-15. The heavier bullets, using a quicker twist, will be more for a bolt or pump, rather than the AR.

I don't know at this point, whether it will surpass the 6.8mm Spc. 2, enough to make a difference. But my soldered up dummy has almost 50 grs. of H2O, to its case mouth. The quick twist would make up a neat bolt action Bushveld rifle for collecting hides, and wild meats. The problem is that the Black S.A. Gov't doesn't want any black rifles coming in, on Safaris.
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