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Old 08-18-2009, 09:26 AM
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Re: Need help choosing a combo

Rob:
You've got a great set-up there. I went with almost the same set-up.....

http://www.longrangehunting.com/foru...ld-pics-43510/

I considered the Super Sniper, but the Bushnell was even less expensive. I bought mine for $165 brand new on ebay.

I also considered the same stock you're looking at. The one thing I didn't like about it is that it does not have an adjustable cheek piece. If you go with the B&C stock, get a bolt-on cheek piece. Defensive Edge sells a nice one:

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Triggers - the factory trigger on the SPS can be tuned down to about 2.5lbs. That's fine to begin with.

Bipods - go with the Harris. Just be sure you get the swivel head and notched legs. 6-9" or 9-13"...it's up to you. I have both.

Once you have it all together, you should have a great rifle. This summer I have killed groundhogs at 809, 743, 719 and 420. I've shot at them at 900+ and missed them by just a smidge.

You've started down an addictive road and you have already talked yourself into exceeding your original budget for the project. That's a sure sign that you're already addicted and you haven't even pulled the trigger yet.

There's no known cure for this addiction. All you can do is minimize the withdrawal symptoms by shooting more and more.

Have fun and post pics and shooting results when you have them.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:05 AM
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Awesome thanks for the input and links...and yes its becoming very addictive...My gf was mad at me yesterday because i researched for 4 hours...and then after she went to bed i researched 4 more.

As far as the Bushnell...is there much difference? Do they make more magnified bushnell scopes in the 3200 series that work with similar quality? The only reason i chose the super sniper was because in the article it said you get a more quality scope for not that much more.

I havent even gotten the rifle yet and im already looking up mods for it such as digital camo kits....i doubt i will paint the barrel. Ive heard bad things about painting the barrel. But its a really nice accent to any rifle if done the correct way and its easy with Duracoats peel n' spray kit. The stencil set is 69 dollars and you can buy the paint from them but im not to keen on any of the colors the black/white/grey looks nice but its VERY vivid. I think it needs to be a more matte effect with more colors that blend into themselves....olives...off greys....dark greys...and so on. This is a future goal i suppose when the novelty wears off and i feel comfortable with spray painting my hard work.

If anyones interested in the digital camo process you can get the stencils here...

Lauer Weaponry Online Order Center

and i read an article on this website i forget who wrote it about camoflauging your gun and he used krylon and it looks very good when he was through with it. So you can use the spray can krylon with the stencils and avoid having to buy a compressor, spray gun, etc etc and so on.

PS: the kit im buying is the Urban Mirageflauge. Its under Duracoat and camopaks -> Camopaks & Peel N' Spray.

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Old 08-18-2009, 11:03 AM
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Rob:
There's is no difference in magnification between the SuperSniper 10x and the Bushnell 3200 10x40. They are both fixed power scopes. Although I have not used or even looked threw a super sniper, I would assume it is better/clearer glass. The major difference between the scopes is the total amount of elevation adjustment they have. The Bushnell has 80moa and the SS has 100. Both of these is sufficient adjustment so you can shoot 1k.

Bushnell does make some other scopes with the tactical turrets, but they only have 50moa total adjustment. With a 308, you would have to find the just right combination of base and ring set-up to be able to have enough adjustment for 1k shooting.

This brings up one more issue that I forgot to mention in my previous post. That is rings and bases. Since you're on a budget, I would recommend the same set up that's on my rifle. Burris Signature Rings and Bases. The rings come with plastic inserts so that you can cant (lift the rear of your scope).

You can find them here:

Rings: Burris Signature 1" Double Dovetail Riflescope Mount Rings. 420560, 420561, 420570, 420571, 420562. Burris Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.

Bases: Burris Rifle Scope DD Two & One Piece Bases (Double Dovetail). 410546, 410547, 410589, 410590, 410592, 410593, 410594, 410520, 410521, 410595, 410596, 410598. Burris Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.

Set of Inserts: Burris Signature Pos-Align Offset Insert Kits & Individual Inserts. 626016, 626017, 626018, 626019, 626024. Burris Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:25 PM
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If that is the case then i will go with the 3200...its over $100 cheaper. thanks for the tips! now to start buying...i will post pictures as my build progresses.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:04 PM
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Rob:
My consulting fee is exhorbitant. Send all excess funds you have to me.

Take your time with your building process.

1. buy the rifle, bases, rings and scope.

2. Your rifle may come with a scope and rings (mine did). Keep them for a .22 you might have or some other inexpensive rifle. Or in the alternative, sell them in the classified section of this website. This way you can recoup some of your costs.

3. Mount your new scope in your new bases and rings. If you use the Burris Signature rings/bases, set up the rings with the +20 insert in the rear and the -10 in the front (don't worry if you don't understand this now. when you receive your rings and inserts and read the directions it will be apparent).

4. Have your rifle boresited (most shops will do this for free) and without making any changes or further investment, go shoot the rifle. Find out if it has the accuracy potential you're looking for. My rifle shot .75moa at 100 yards right out of the box.

5. If the rifle will shoot, start with the least expensive upgrades first. Start with adjusting the trigger. A gunsmith can do this for you for ~$60. The lowest my smith could adjust my trigger was 2.5lbs. That's fine for a beginner. As you advance, you will be able to handle a lighter trigger. Then you will need to replace the factory trigger.

6. Recrown your barrel. This is an often missed upgrade on factory barrels. The crown of your barrel is the tip or muzzle. The last thing that touches your bullet before it is air born. Often factory barrel crowns are not square to the bore. Recrowning can be done for ~$75

7. as you upgrade your rifle, keep shooting it and assess whether the changes you are making are doing what you want.

8. Next step will be to replace the factory stock. While you're out shooting, ask all the guys around you about their rifles and the stock they have. Ask if you can shoot their rifle. This will give you a hands-on feel for the type of stock you might want and more importantly maybe - the features you don't want. For instance, I was pretty well sold on the B&C Varmint stock, until I was on a range one day and a guy had one there. He let me shoot his rifle. I was disappointed to find I had to lift my cheek to be able to see thru the scope. This told me I wanted a stock with an adjustable cheek piece or add a bolt-on cheek piece to the B&C. Generally speaking, you're looking at ~$300+ for a new stock.

9. Whatever stock you choose, you will want to consider bedding your action into the stock. Depending on how much bedding work needs to be done, a gunsmith will charge you ~$60 to $175 for the work.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:28 PM
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Re: Need help choosing a combo

damn fine is subjective, but that should be a good rig to get you started, i have found that long range shooting/hunting is one of those things where you get what you pay for and your better off to pay the first time and have what you want in the end. dont hope for more than the .308 win. is capable of or what it is most effective at(range) . good luck.

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Old 08-19-2009, 01:04 AM
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Re: Need help choosing a combo

Take a look at the Leapers Accushot Swat model scope 6-24x56.

Leapers Accushot 30mm SWAT 6-24X56 Full Size A.O. Range Estimating Mil-Dot Illuminated Scope SCP3-6245AOMDL FREE S&H SCP3-6245AOMDL. Leapers Riflescopes.

I have 1 and my brother has one on his 300 win mag. He has been saving up for a Nightforce. We shoot a lot of long range rocks and such and the tracking is real good. Pretty clear and really cheap for what you get.

You might want to look at the Savage model 12 in 308. Comes with a heavy barrel and laminated stock. They are really good shooters for close to what you will spend on the remington.

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