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Old 04-03-2012, 03:17 PM
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Thanks for all the info Grit. Where would I find the info on the classes and video?
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:48 PM
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While I can't speak for all of Talleys products, I have their lightweight alloy scope mounts (which have integrated rings) on my hunting rig and I think they're great!
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:52 PM
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+1 for the Tally's. I have them on two of my LR rigs and they work well. For your application of 500 yards or less, the 257 Weatherby will work well. It's a great candidate for a ballistic Reticle with the high velocity, flat shooting characteristics of the cartridge. You don't have to go overboard on scope capability for the range you will be operating at. My buddy has a 257WM with a Leupold Boone and Crockett 4.5x14 and nothing is safe inside 500 yards.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:10 PM
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Thanks for all the replies! I definitely should've joined sooner! Also what would y'all say is the maximum range for the 257 weatherby? Our deer down here are usually on the small side. I know they say 900 ft-lbs is needed to kill a deer but I'd think when you get past 500 yards the caliber starts to come into play as well
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:56 PM
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You could surely kill a deer further out than 500 yards, but even though your energy is higher than 900 ft/lbs, I would consider the practical limit at 500-600 yards. You're correct, bullet diameter does come into play. A formula based on Bells knock out formula has been adapted to determine effectiveness of light HV bullets.

(Bullet diameter x velocity at target x bullet weight) / 7000= KO

For a Nosler 110 gr BT at 500 yards:

(.257x2330x110) / 7000= 9.4KO at 500 yards.

Compare a 308, 165 gr BT at 500 yards:

(.308x1916x165)/700= 13.9KO

A factor of 10 for big deer, 15 for elk are supposed to be minimums. This formula,
originally designed for use with solids, seems to work in cases where standard energy values can be misleading, because of the effect of very high velocity using smaller diameter light bullets, being incapable of clean kills even though the energy value is considered sufficient. The formula accounts for bullet diameter and seems to be a decent alternative to using the standard energy formula commonly used. However, none of these formula take bullet performance into account.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:20 PM
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Defensiveedge.net for the videos and to check out his classes.

For info on my class send me a PM.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:32 PM
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So I've come across a dilemma guys, I got to thinking about stuff and I'm kinda thinking about a Remington 700 Sendero SF II in 7mm Rem mag. With the 257 weatherby I wanted to get another stock and all that. The sendero comes with the HS Precision stock. I'd actually save money by going with it. I don't do to well with recoil so that's why Im thinking 7mm vs the 300's offered in the sendero. Any suggestions? Sorry to change my mind up. I just wanna make sure I'm getting the gun I really like ya know. Especially since it'll be a while before I can afford another one. Thanks guys.
David
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