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Old 08-23-2002, 09:59 AM
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Info for Guys Just Starting Out.

I am involved with a lot of hunters who are interested in getting into long(er) range shooting. Long range shooting has various degrees. I am talking about hunters who want to get their equipment and personal abilities up to shooting lethal-sized groups at 500 to 600 yards initially. Who knows, they might possibly move farther out. Depends on their individual skill and equipment and mainly how much money and time they wish to devote.

The one consistent equipment problem that is happening has been with scopes - not enough elevation adjustment capability. Some hunting scopes run out of elevation as close as 400 yards, depending on the rifle, scope model and mounts.

Remedy - be prepared to buy a scope with turrets if you don't already have one (or get turrets installed in your current scope if possible). If you want to shoot past 6-700 yards consider a 30mm scope with turrets, then you should have lots of adjustment lattitude. Also make sure that you have 1/4 minute adjustments, the guys with 1/8th minute adjustments rarely get to 600, even with some turrets.

Another consideration is to replace standard bases with sloped bases that enable an additional 20 minutes of adjustment lattitude.

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Old 08-23-2002, 10:30 AM
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Re: Info for Guys Just Starting Out.


I've also found with scopes, you get what you pay for.

In the long run, you are way a head if you save up and spend the same money on the optics as you did for the rifle. My main hunting rifle is a .17 Remington. It has virtually no recoil, but gets carried and used almost daily for 7 months a year. It's worn a number of scopes until I finally broke down and bought a good quality scope 3 years ago. The other $200 and cheaper scopes, just couldn't handle the daily use. Some would last most of the season, some not even a month, but sooner or later, they all started having trouble holding zero.

For all I spent on the junk scopes, I could have bought two good ones.

Who makes a good set of weaver style tapered base for a M 70 LA?
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Old 08-23-2002, 12:30 PM
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NightForce makes the best one or two piece tapered(40/20 MOA, respectively) bases on the market for a M70(I have 6 sets). You could also try Rick Piccaretta of RDP Rifles. He makes a 30 MOA one or two piece base for the M700, but I'm not sure about the M70. Good Luck...

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Old 08-23-2002, 01:01 PM
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Re: Info for Guys Just Starting Out.

Go to Burris signature rings with the optional insert kit. Cost is $50, they make them to fit 1" and 30mm and in any height. They come with interchangable plastic sleeve inserts that go inside the rings that allow up to 40 MOA of elevation. That is max for any normal tapered base and at least 50%-75% cheaper. They are used all the time in 1000 yd BR. Even with big magnums, they do not move or shift.

Brownells sells a set of 20 MOA tapered bases for winchester. Have a set on 300 win mag factory class gun.

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Old 08-23-2002, 05:30 PM
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Re: Info for Guys Just Starting Out.

The more I think about your statement about spending roughly the same dollars on your optics as the rifle - the more that makes sence for guys starting out. That would correspond nicely with $500-800 for a rifle and a similar amount for a really good scope and set of top quality mounts.

This analogy will not work for extreme range shooters as I believe they must put a lot of $ into their rifles relative to their optics.

You are also correct that we get what we pay for - good optics have to be owned to be appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2002, 07:32 PM
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Re: Info for Guys Just Starting Out.

I like the idea of the Burris Signature Zee Rings, now if just a few more people would make Weaver style basses for a Weatherby Action. The only ones I have found were Warne, and I don't know how well they work! Any advice?
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Old 09-08-2002, 07:57 PM
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Re: Info for Guys Just Starting Out.

Ian has me sold on the WARNE rings. Now I'm trying to figure out what base to put on a 700 Remy in 300Wby.
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