How Long is "LongRange"?

[Randy in Va]

Dave in response to people that acuse you of "B.S. when talking about your capabilities, the correct answer is to slowly reach for your wallet and ask them if they happen to be a betting man. If you are like most on this forum, the other guy loses by backing down or handing over money.

Be sure to use it with the most vocal in front of their friends. Write the bet down on the spot and have witnesses sign. Best done the day after leaving the bar..........

[ 12-02-2004: Message edited by: Randy in Va ]

[Dave King]

Randy in VA

The problem with the betting type folks is that they tend to make the situation impossible and/or it becomes a never ending additive series of conditions: real, conjoured, imagined or worst "a once saw/heard of a guy do this". "Yeah, that's it: 900 yards, double crosswind, 30 mph, moonless night, borrowed gun, mixed manufacturer ammo, out of a truck window (moving truck, corduroy road), etc, etc... you know, just like real hunters do it!


Seriously though.

For a new guy, I'd say LongRange begins where he/she needs to THINK A GOOD DEAL about what's required to get the bullet on target, and then also analyze his/her various variables and make corrections BEFORE the shot. If you're not doing this, the shot is natural to you and therefore more than likely normal distance or you're just a poor marksman.

----- "Oh, I forgot to tell you... you gotta make the shot 4 times while blindfolded or the bet's off!"

Hunter308

LONG RANGE....is directly commensurate with ones experience in messing around in the shooting game, shooting various types of rifles/ammo in competition, understanding the many intricate problems involving just what a bullet will and can do (ballistics) under many types of varying conditions such as temp/altitude/humidity! What am I talking about here? EXPERIENCE!! When I first looked downrange at the old 36" V target used many years ago....THAT....was LONG RANGE to an ignorant country boy! I didn't believe that ANYONE could hit a bull THAT FAR; especially with a National Match M1 Garand! After many years of EXPERIENCE....and learning the game....hitting the X ring from 1000 yds. with a GREAT shooting Palma rifle...well...it was no problem!

What seems impossible to you now....will not be later!

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[4ked Horn]

Try this one (I've just concocted it so lets see what everyone thinks).

Your personal "Long range" formula:

Distance to your longest 1 shot kill and second longest 1 shot kill averaged plus 50 yards.

320+380=700/2=350+50= 400 yards.

1480+1250=2730/2=1365+50= 1415 yards.

If you are puttin' 'em down at consistant distances your personal long range grows. But if you had one sweet shot at a super distance but other shots are a bit less then maybe you still need some experience at a more consistant distance.

What do you think guys?