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Old 08-07-2012, 10:26 AM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

I read exactly what you said and was just making a statement that 22 scopes are not intended for heavy recoil rifles like your Rum. Put whatever cheap junk you want on it or any big boomer and sooner or later you'll probably have problems. I'll stay with Leupolds and not have to worry whether one's going to fall apart when I get a shot at a deer or elk out in your great state that I hunt every year.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

Have you tried any of these inexpensive scopes mentioned? That Center Point I have has held up so far, about 300-400 rds from .243, 7mm-08 and 7RM. We'll see how that Simmons .22 scope holds up, I got it mounted up on the 7RM.

I personally put the best glass I can afford on. The Nikon Monarch that was on the 7 mag went on my sons gun. Not everyone can afford better than an inexpensive scope or in my case afford it right away. I don't believe anyone can guarantee they will fail. Sorry not trying to bust your chops as I understand that you don't want to mess up your out of state hunt and that's ok.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:57 AM
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I fully understand that not all people can go with top of the line equipment, but putting that 22 scope on a Rum is about as silly as anything I've ever heard of in 60 years of hunting/shooting! Sorry, but that's as polite as I can be on the subject. To answer your question, yes, I have one inexpensive Tasco World Class 3x9x 50mm on a sporterized 03A3 Springfield 30-06 that doesn't get a 1/2 dozen rounds through it a year. It was purchased over 20 years ago when they were making fairly decent stuff and it's only used up at my northern MI property. All of my Rugers, Sakos, and pre 64 Model 70s from .243 caliber up through 30-06 that I have in my safes and that are used on a regular basis for big game hunting are topped with Leupolds. I'm not into the belted magnums as I see no reason for them in what I do and hunt. Any piece of equipment can fail, and that's why I like Leupolds and their guarantee, but have never needed it. Maybe you should take a poll of members and ask if they would put that 22 scope on a Rum compared to a Leupold that's designed for centerfire rifles. It would be like running a 4 ply street tire on my Silverado 4x4 out on the back roads of Wyoming compared to the 10 ply Coopers that are on it. One of the latter might fail, but chances are very minimal compared to running a street tire out there.

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Old 08-09-2012, 08:24 AM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

This thread seems to get a lot of attention. I know people that have had Nightmare break. I've had a Burritos XTR fail. They all have that possibility, but honestly, so do your rings and base. Epoxy your base down. Torque and loctite the screws. Torque the ring cross bolts, back off torque, repeat until the torque wrench handle stays in the same approximate angle. Check true of the rings and lap them. I have seen 40% give or take contact on even the best rings. Install the best you can afford. center the caps and torque them as well. I call manufacturers for torque values if they aren't listed. True the reticle. I use a plumb bob and a level. If you mount it this way it will eliminate the other failure points.

I am sticking by my SWFA SS suggestion. They May not be Tasco price range, but try to find many negative comments. They just don't seem to have many other than they don't have xxxx feature.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

SWFA SS 20X - $220 shipped


That seems like the kinda deal yo
u may be looking for. Its not mine.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:25 AM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

For a good scope look at leupold. Was at a pawn shop a couple of years ago found a standard
3.5 X10 VX3 for 250.00 dollars standard duplex sent it to leupold and had target knobs put
on it and they checked it out as well the cost of the knobs was about 160.00 dollars.
Went out and did the balistics fps and bullet BC with JMB program for come up. Went back out and did a final check of the JMB program of bullet drop made adjustments to 600 yards.
Very please with all things.........
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:25 PM
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Re: Good hunting scope?

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Originally Posted by Topgun 30-06 View Post
I fully understand that not all people can go with top of the line equipment, but putting that 22 scope on a Rum is about as silly as anything I've ever heard of in 60 years of hunting/shooting! Sorry, but that's as polite as I can be on the subject. To answer your question, yes, I have one inexpensive Tasco World Class 3x9x 50mm on a sporterized 03A3 Springfield 30-06 that doesn't get a 1/2 dozen rounds through it a year. It was purchased over 20 years ago when they were making fairly decent stuff and it's only used up at my northern MI property. All of my Rugers, Sakos, and pre 64 Model 70s from .243 caliber up through 30-06 that I have in my safes and that are used on a regular basis for big game hunting are topped with Leupolds. I'm not into the belted magnums as I see no reason for them in what I do and hunt. Any piece of equipment can fail, and that's why I like Leupolds and their guarantee, but have never needed it. Maybe you should take a poll of members and ask if they would put that 22 scope on a Rum compared to a Leupold that's designed for centerfire rifles. It would be like running a 4 ply street tire on my Silverado 4x4 out on the back roads of Wyoming compared to the 10 ply Coopers that are on it. One of the latter might fail, but chances are very minimal compared to running a street tire out there.

Actually the scope for 109 dollars you scoffed at IS a center fire scope.
I did however put my $140 .22 scope on my 6.25 lbs 7mm rem mag fired 40 rounds through it today and it held up nicely. Tomorrow I'll take it prairie dog hunting. Please concede the point so I don't have to keep this scope on for elk season or the next 5 years just to prove you wrong.

Just because it's marketed as a .22 scope doesn't tell you it was built any different than a center fire scope or maybe it was. Neither one of us has any proof one way or another. Yet

As far as a poll is concerned. I'm not interested in what everyone thinks as much as what is actual. Sometimes they can differ. I would think 60+ years you'd have figured that one out by now. Going in my opinion was worth about as much as yours. Mostly logic with assumptions and guesses. If you've never mounted a Simmons .22 scope up to a magnum rifle you have about as much right as me to flap your gums. Right now I'm taking a $140 bet that my kung fu style is stronger.
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