Re: Going to shoot 500 yards tomorrow
I like it Dave. I don't get more plain and simple than that, I'd call that consitancy, and eye opening for many too.
I've done the same thing with a handfull of friends, mostly two and three hundred yard, not too much practicing in there schedual type. Others have pulled up and BS'd with me about it while on the river bar shooting out to 800 and 1000 yards. The first comment from the stopper by types is, "how far away IS that?"
My friends actually get to see the whole session, start to finish, and leaves no doubt with them.
One friend of mine is pretty serious about learning the ins and outs of it, and is getting a grasp on the basics pretty well and getting into the deeper stuff a little bit more now.
He only started taking this LR stuff seriously after shooting with me "several times" and learning it wasn't luck, a good day at the range, no sighters needed, etc. He finally see's that if he puts the time and "money" into learning and practicing, he can do it to... he's naturally an excellent shot BTW, don't see that too often.
Getting guys past the point they've learned drops and how to compensate for them with their scope turrets using MOA is one of the big hurdles, or at least it I've found that to be true. MOA seems to confuse the hell out of most beginners and I think they just turn their brain off when they here it and think it's too complicated at that point to try and follow a conversation with even its mention. I admit, it took me a while to grasp how to correct for bullet drop at distances other than 100yds using MOA corrections.
When you first explain bullet drop and MOA correction to someone that's not heard the term, or to even someone that has but doesn't understand it, you can almost instantly see a look on their face that seems to indicate they think this is WAY COMPLICATED stuff here, and it simply ISN'T.
Showing someone as you have, then getting them figuring out their own drops, dialing in their own corrections and seeing the results on the target is the fastest way for them to SEE it's all too simple, even for them.
Some LR hunters will always leave us on very shaky ground, ethics wise. Ignoring the affects that changing winds will cause is one variable that any short range hunter takes lightly, when it comes to POI vs. POA.
Another is that the SR hunters group size at his normal killing range is far less an issue, a LR hunters is extremely important and "must" be known and used, along with other "varying" factors to base his maximum consistant killing range on.
Dave clearly demonstrates the possibility IS reality, on any given day within reason. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
The arguement of LR being shooting, and not hunting will never go away, I leave it be, as it is simply subjective and most believe what they will on it.
The other arguements concerning shot placement and the percent chances of hits at LR are pretty cut and dry. Simple math usually decides who's full of BS in any situation when the facts are known, and anyone can see which stance holds up, or fails miserably.
I feel we have an obligation to our game and sport both, to stay well within our abilities, no matter how far we'd "like" to make a shot on game... we give em ammo against us all when we don't.
Dave, I hope you post this pic on every "can't do" thread concerning LR hunting you happen upon, aught to shut a few of them up or at least tone em down a bit. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]